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2700X - Upgrade Path

y2ck01

y2ck01

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Hey folks,

I've been pondering on the idea of upgrading my CPU. With my current specs (see signature) what would you recommend? It would be nice not to have to upgrade my MB if possible.

Would there be a noticeable increase in performance?

If it helps. I don't play anything online or competitive. Mostly RPGs and action games.
 
If you don't need the extra cores, the 5600X will be a good upgrade gaming wise, and may even be slightly better in multithreaded workloads thanks to the higher IPC/clock speed.

What resolution is your screen? Anything else you do on the PC?
 
My screen resolution is 1440p and my computer is mostly used for gaming, movies and general browsing. Nothing work or video editing related.

How much of a performance increase would I notice in the likes of Cyberpunk and other open world games. Would my current CPU be holding me back?
 
I would have thought at 1440p max settings you'd be more GPU limited with a rtx2070 than CPU really.

What refresh is your 1440p screen?

A 5600x or 5800/5900x would lift frames a little, but without an accompanying GPU upgrade the gains would be minimal.
 
The refresh is 144 with G-Sync. I hear you but graphics cards are gold dust at the moment and I refuse to give a scalper a penny. The CPU upgrade feels more attainable.
 
probably worth firing up afterburner to see where your bottleneck actually is, rather than possibly needlessly wasting money on an upgrade that may not improve your fps
 
y2ck01 said:
The refresh is 144 with G-Sync. I hear you but graphics cards are gold dust at the moment and I refuse to give a scalper a penny. The CPU upgrade feels more attainable.
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A new CPU might help get your frames a little higher then and perhaps smooth the delta between minimums and maximums, but with gsync, thats already smoothing things out.

Do what tamzzy suggested, get afterburner to display gpu and cpu useage in games you play and go from there.

Totally agree about GPUs though. Unless you can get hold of a FE card, the rest are way overpriced.
 
R7 2700x is a decent chip so if you are going to change it and not change the mobo then goto the endgame so that cpu+mobo combo is as feasibly good as it can be. If you are going to change the 2700x go for a 5900x and then you are near the limits of what the mobo can deliver. Yes the 5600x is great and a decent price but if you got it you would always be thinking about getting a 5900/5950x.

Yes gpus are hard to get but is it worth spending money for no real gain? without a gpu upgrade you will notice very little difference in game but you would have a system worthy of a gpu upgrade in the future when gpus are available or 4000/7000 series are launched.

Its a great well balanced PC. I think you have a case of upgraditis and should ignore the urges and enjoy the hardware you currently have.
 
5600X is the one. Big improvement even on the 3700X for gaming. if you want to go higher i would go for the 5900X as the 5800X is a bit too hot for my liking
 
Honestly don't go for less cores than what you have - its a short term fix. Yes,some games like single core performance,so even an overclocked Core i7 7700K probably is faster in those games,let alone a Ryzen 5 5600X. However,down the line as games use more and more threads,you might end up hitting the issue that the Ryzen 5 5600X doesn't have enough,especially with 2022/2023 dGPUs and games. We literally went from a 4C/4T Core i5 being the King of gaming to 6C/12T CPUs being optimal with the last generation of consoles in 3 years. So,if you intend to keep the new CPU for another 3 years,I would be looking at a Ryzen 7 5800X,or alternatively upgrade the whole setup in 2023.

However,if you are mostly playing games at around 60FPS,perhaps its prudent to only really upgrade when their is a real performance problem IMHO.
 
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CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Honestly don't go for less cores than what you have - its a short term fix. Yes,some games like single core performance,so even an overclocked Core i7 7700K probably is faster in those games,let alone a Ryzen 5 5600X. However,down the line as games use more and more threads,you might end up hitting the issue that the Ryzen 5 5600X doesn't have enough,especially with 2022/2023 dGPUs and games. We literally went from a 4C/4T Core i5 being the King of gaming to 6C/12T CPUs being optimal with the last generation of consoles in 3 years. So,if you intend to keep the new CPU for another 3 years,I would be looking at a Ryzen 7 5800X,or alternatively upgrade the whole setup in 2023.

However,if you are mostly playing games at around 60FPS,perhaps its prudent to only really upgrade when their is a real performance problem IMHO.
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Valid point, 5600X is definately a fix but as you say it MAY be a relatively short term one.
 
I upgraded from 2700X to 5900X. I basically didn't really like the idea of upgrading to the same core count or less, even if the IPC is better.
That's not to say a 5600X isn't an upgrade on a 2700X but I wouldn't want to be sat there in a year or two running heavily threaded apps and regretting the move.

The 5900X cost £445 new so is not worth the money (cost about 3x what I normally spend on a CPU) but I've decided to spend big this year, as mentioned in another thread the days of simply buying a bargain CPU and overclocking the hell out of it to match high end chips seem to be numbered.
 
HangTime said:
I upgraded from 2700X to 5900X. I basically didn't really like the idea of upgrading to the same core count or less, even if the IPC is better.
That's not to say a 5600X isn't an upgrade on a 2700X but I wouldn't want to be sat there in a year or two running heavily threaded apps and regretting the move.

The 5900X cost £445 new so is not worth the money (cost about 3x what I normally spend on a CPU) but I've decided to spend big this year, as mentioned in another thread the days of simply buying a bargain CPU and overclocking the hell out of it to match high end chips seem to be numbered.
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I think you bought at the right time as prices seem to be going up again. The 5900X is a hell of a CPU. Very strong performance across the board.
 
Yes I was waiting for it to go under £450, it wasn't that long ago they were quite difficult to find in stock under £500. One of those FOMO situations where I got kinda suckered into buying something because it seemed scarce at that price, the irony is if they had been priced at say £425 since day 1 and always in stock I probably wouldn't have got one!
 
The difference in performance for something like Cyberpunk, with RT on, would be staggering. Imo better to go with a 5600X and enjoy the great performance now than wait around for years so that you do a "big" upgrade and miss out on all this time (plus it's gonna take years for DDR5 platforms to mature & costs will be eye-watering - consider yourself very lucky you can just plop a 5600X in and be good to go). When all is said and done a big upgrade is still worse than more frequent smaller upgrades, both costs & performance. Especially when it's unknown how much of a big difference those extra 2 cores (in consoles) might make, and when; tbh for you with an Nvidia GPU the need for a better CPU is also that much greater. Ultimately too many people are wrapped up in thinking about tomorrow and forget the present. For the price that the 5600X upgrade will cost you you are seeing gains that are going to be unmatched in terms of value from anything releasing in the next 5 years. Just my 2c, I'd upgrade ASAP.

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https://www.pcgameshardware.de/Cybe...077-Benchmarks-GPU-CPU-Raytracing-1363331/#a7

https://extreme.pcgameshardware.de/threads/pcgh-community-benchmarks-cyberpunk-2077-cpu.601159/
 
Poneros said:
The difference in performance for something like Cyberpunk, with RT on, would be staggering. Imo better to go with a 5600X and enjoy the great performance now than wait around for years so that you do a "big" upgrade and miss out on all this time (plus it's gonna take years for DDR5 platforms to mature & costs will be eye-watering - consider yourself very lucky you can just plop a 5600X in and be good to go). When all is said and done a big upgrade is still worse than more frequent smaller upgrades, both costs & performance. Especially when it's unknown how much of a big difference those extra 2 cores (in consoles) might make, and when; tbh for you with an Nvidia GPU the need for a better CPU is also that much greater. Ultimately too many people are wrapped up in thinking about tomorrow and forget the present. For the price that the 5600X upgrade will cost you you are seeing gains that are going to be unmatched in terms of value from anything releasing in the next 5 years. Just my 2c, I'd upgrade ASAP.

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https://www.pcgameshardware.de/Cybe...077-Benchmarks-GPU-CPU-Raytracing-1363331/#a7

https://extreme.pcgameshardware.de/threads/pcgh-community-benchmarks-cyberpunk-2077-cpu.601159/
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The performance increase for the 5950X is huge vs the 5800X. What's going on in this test to account for the increase exactly? Not too familiar with the game but guess the combination of faster tuned memory, PBO and Curve Optimizer makes a significant difference.
 
LtMatt said:
The performance increase for the 5950X is huge vs the 5800X. What's going on in this test to account for the increase exactly? Not too familiar with the game but guess the combination of faster tuned memory, PBO and Curve Optimizer makes a significant difference.
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It's probably all down to the memory as 3800/14 vs 3200/16 would make a big difference at 720p with a 3090.
 
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