Are there any real major or discernable differences between these two cards (when the latter arrives) and is the latter going to be cheaper for the Gladiator model? The problem is I don't know whether to purchase the 2900 pro or hang on for the later model which should be appearing at the end of November? Thank you
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2900 pro or 2950
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Id just get the 2900 pro thats out now, as the 2950 is just the same card, but on a 55nm process, and will only be 256bit, where as the pro thats out now is 512bit.
Until they are released, nobody can truly clarify wether the 2950's will have a 256bit or a 512bit interface.
We can only assume if it is be sold into the mid-range market then it may actually be 256bit. Although in the future if its used to replace the 2900 then we will see some manufactured with a 512bit interface. Possibly the Gladiator will be the new flagship card. Who knows until they release them.
We can only assume if it is be sold into the mid-range market then it may actually be 256bit. Although in the future if its used to replace the 2900 then we will see some manufactured with a 512bit interface. Possibly the Gladiator will be the new flagship card. Who knows until they release them.
But it will have higher clocks to compensate for the 'possible' 256-bit memory bus, so who can tell?
Point is, the 512mb version *should* be a better performing part given the name, but ati may just be looking for a cheaper manufactured part with similar performance to try and reap more profit back from its r600 development.
Matthew
Point is, the 512mb version *should* be a better performing part given the name, but ati may just be looking for a cheaper manufactured part with similar performance to try and reap more profit back from its r600 development.
Matthew
The 2950 pro will have a more refined core (RV670) which is clocked higher which will be faster than the R600 core. However the memory interface is only 256 bit at 2.4Ghz compared to 512 bit at 1.6Ghz. This translates to 76.8 Gb/sec and 102.4 Gb/sec, I honestly don't think the R600 can use that much bandwidth and the 512 bit bus is wasted.
I'm waiting for the 2950 pro as it will be chaper, run the same if not slightly faster, has support for DX10.1, has a fully working UVD, uses vastly less power, will run cooler and will clock much better.
I'm waiting for the 2950 pro as it will be chaper, run the same if not slightly faster, has support for DX10.1, has a fully working UVD, uses vastly less power, will run cooler and will clock much better.
How did you work that out please? (Giving figures you used
)You hope....
Matthew
.A 2950 pro with a 512mb memory bus at under $250.00 could be a winner if ever it transpired. I don't suppose they realise that though 
There is however an indication that they will run cooler and be more susceptible to a better overclock. I know this is only conjecture but I suppose waiting until Nov the 19th to find out wouldn't hurt. I could always go the Nvidia route if all else fails.
There is however an indication that they will run cooler and be more susceptible to a better overclock. I know this is only conjecture but I suppose waiting until Nov the 19th to find out wouldn't hurt. I could always go the Nvidia route if all else fails.
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frankly the 2900's overclock really well, but ati for no apparent reason are only giving out bios's with increased voltage to a very limited amount of overclockers who are signing nda's to get them.
it is stupid, as stock voltage is low, people are getting stupidly higher clocks with 1.3v over stock 1.2v, if ati let us use a bios with higher voltages things like 3dmark tables, and forums would just end up with bag fulls of massive overclocks and make a 2900pro an insanely good card.
it is stupid, as stock voltage is low, people are getting stupidly higher clocks with 1.3v over stock 1.2v, if ati let us use a bios with higher voltages things like 3dmark tables, and forums would just end up with bag fulls of massive overclocks and make a 2900pro an insanely good card.
Where have you seen this ? Can't AtiTool adjust voltage on the core yet for the 2900 series?
What sort of overclocks are we talking about on 1.3v? (and what cooling required?)
Matthew