2900XT or 640GTS?

Chronictank · 18 Jun 2007 at 16:17

the_champ_101 said:
Good for you, last post here as ignoring facts are what some of you like to do the most,
2900XT produces more heat

True but hotter cards usually overclock better on more efficient cooling

and uses more power

Marginally, the difference is so little its a joke its used as a argument at all

16w or 61w which equates to £0.072 or £3.60 p month
Some people here really need a reality check now and again tbh

fan is louder,

Very true, but if you plan on really overclocking you would be using water anyway this added to the fact that fan control will eventually be added whether in the official release or in apps such as Ati Tool seeing as it is a well known fact the noise is because there are currently only 2 speed settings low and full. In addition idle the Ati is quieter than a GTS

game has less performance with AA enabled,

Plain wrong, proven countless times it is on the par/faster than a GTS in the majority of cases, just one review with the released drivers

Chronictank said:
As said in the other thread
If you are/plan on using vista get the 2900, if you are using XP then a 640GTS.

Using the 7.5Beta cata's

Testbeds:
Nvidia
- eVGA e-GeForce 8800 Ultra Superclocked 768MB
- NVIDIA GeForce 8800 Ultra 768MiB
- ASUS EN8800GTS/HTDP/640M 640MiB
- AMD Radeon HD 2900 XT 512MiB

Intel Core 2 Extreme X6800 (2.93GHz, 4MiB L2 cache, LGA775)
EVGA nForce 680i SLI
2GiB (2x 1024) Corsair PC8500 EPP
4-4-4-12 2T @ 800MHz (PC6400)
FSP Epsilon 600W
Dell 3007WFP - 2560x1600
Seagate 160GB SATAII (ST3160812AS)
NVIDIA platform driver 9.53
ForceWare 158.19

Ati
AMD Radeon HD 2900 XT 512MiB
Intel Core 2 Extreme X6800 (2.93GHz, 4MiB L2 cache, LGA775)
ASUS P5W-DH Deluxe (975X+ICH7R)
2GiB (2x 1024) Patriot XLBK
4-4-4-12 2T @ 800MHz (PC6400)
Enermax Galaxy DXX 850W
Dell 3007WFP - 2560x1600
Seagate 160GB SATAII (ST3160812AS)
Intel Inf 8.0.1.1002
8.37.4-070419a-046506E-ATI (Cat 7.5 BETA)

Windows XP Professional, w/ SP2, 32-bit

just face it, this card is a failure. It's hard for fanboys to accept but just take it like a man, the 2900 doesn't perform and drivers won't sort the AA.

You really seem to have a strange ability to ignore anything that doesnt support your argument to be honest

Boogle · 18 Jun 2007 at 16:17

willhub said:
Why dont you trust him? because of the arguments?

Because he talks rubbish. Source engine expert, no fog issue, ATI card is completely rubbish (there's a rational statement), 1v1 game to solve the technical argument, ignoring other people's statements and just directly assaulting them, and so on.

Usually when most people get to late teens they start to have more balanced views, rather than extremely polarised one's. At the very least they can accept someone else's argument without going behind the bike sheds (geek version: 1v1).

willhub · 18 Jun 2007 at 16:18

killer_uk said:
Probably because he registered not long ago and he has a low post count. While this obviously doesn't mean a GREAT deal, there would be less risk of dealing with someone who has been here longer. If you do go through with it and something does go wrong, don't say we didn't warn you.

Well, do you think its ok for me to post in the MM anywere to find anyone else who is unhappy with there 2900 and wish they got an 8800, maybe there could be someone else who would go with a swap, I really would not mind a swap, to me these cards are of equal value since I payed £270 for mine.

SS-89 · 18 Jun 2007 at 16:19

Its a new hybrid species, Nvidia Fanboys who buy Ati cards so that they can deliberately nitpick and whine all day long :rolleyes:

Tom|Nbk · 18 Jun 2007 at 16:19

Chronictank said:
True but hotter cards usually overclock better on more efficient cooling

Marginally, the difference is so little its a joke its used as a argument at all

Very true, but if you plan on really overclocking you would be using water anyway

Plain wrong, proven countless times it is on the par/faster than a GTS in the majority of cases

You really seem to have a strange ability to ignore anything that doesnt support your argument to be honest

Good post, as I proved in my power requirements thread, the fact that the 2900's power consuption is used as an argument is utter tutt.

killer_uk · 18 Jun 2007 at 16:20

willhub said:
Well, do you think its ok for me to post in the MM anywere to find anyone else who is unhappy with there 2900 and wish they got an 8800, maybe there could be someone else who would go with a swap, I really would not mind a swap, to me these cards are of equal value since I payed £270 for mine.

That would be the best option by far.

willhub · 18 Jun 2007 at 16:20

SS-89 said:
Its a new hybrid species, Nvidia Fanboys who buy Ati cards so that they can deliberately nitpick and whine all day long

Well, I am neutral, I had ATi cards and NV cards, but if there is something wrong with the cards, something I dont like or lower performance on the 2900 when I got it compared to the 8800 then I will say.

killer_uk said:
That would be the best option by far.

I'll give it a try

"Desperate 8800 owner looking for a 2900XT"

Tom|Nbk · 18 Jun 2007 at 16:22

willhub said:
Well, I am neutral, I had ATi cards and NV cards, but if there is something wrong with the cards, something I dont like or lower performance on the 2900 when I got it compared to the 8800 then I will say.

I'll give it a try

"Desperate 8800 owner looking for a 2900XT"

Good to hear

*Passes Boogle popcorn*

Mad_Jay · 18 Jun 2007 at 16:22

willhub said:
Well, I am neutral, I had ATi cards and NV cards, but if there is something wrong with the cards, something I dont like or lower performance on the 2900 when I got it compared to the 8800 then I will say.

I'll give it a try

"Desperate 8800 owner looking for a 2900XT"

MSN in trust mate

killer_uk · 18 Jun 2007 at 16:23

willhub said:
"Desperate 8800 owner looking for a 2900XT"

Would it be best to stick it in the Wanted forum? Anyone know?

EDIT: Just seen you've put it in there

SS-89 · 18 Jun 2007 at 16:24

willhub said:
Well, I am neutral, I had ATi cards and NV cards, but if there is something wrong with the cards, something I dont like or lower performance on the 2900 when I got it compared to the 8800 then I will say.

O soz i wasnt actually referring to you if thats the impression you got, i was referring to the star of the thread

willhub · 18 Jun 2007 at 16:24

killer_uk said:
Would it be best to stick it in the Wanted forum? Anyone know?

Thats what i've done

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?p=9542629#post9542629

Looks like I did the right thing

Thanks.

killer_uk · 18 Jun 2007 at 16:29

willhub said:
Thats what i've done

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?p=9542629#post9542629

Looks like I did the right thing

Thanks.

Woah, fast reply. Excellent result.

Boogle · 18 Jun 2007 at 16:29

Tom|Nbk said:
*Passes Boogle popcorn*

Ah excellent

Please continue Mr. Champ

oweneades · 18 Jun 2007 at 16:30

Chronictank said:
Marginally, the difference is so little its a joke its used as a argument at all

Whilst I would agree power usage isn't a massive factor in what graphics card I would buy the difference between a HD2900XT and a 8800GTS is more than 'just a little'.

Tom|Nbk · 18 Jun 2007 at 16:30

Very nice I bet champs kicking himself

SS-89 · 18 Jun 2007 at 16:31

What was the outcome? I cant actually access that yet as i havent been registered for 3 months.

killer_uk · 18 Jun 2007 at 16:33

SS-89 said:
What was the outcome? I cant actually access that yet as i havent been registered for 3 months.

He got an offer to trade in under a minute

Teaf · 18 Jun 2007 at 16:38

Superb!

SS-89 · 18 Jun 2007 at 16:39

Great

hope you enjoy your 2900 will