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295 single pcb???
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why are you waiting for the single pcb 295? it doesnt have any advantages over the standard 295 after all.
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With all their 40nm problems - this may be the newest high end Nvidia card for a while.
I like the look of the single pcb arrangement and hopefully some good aftermarket coolers will be released (i'd love it if thermalright had a go
). Also - as its single PCB it would make sense if they dropped the price a bit, but as there is no directly competing card I don't know if they will. However, it looks like they will be making these in larger volumes than the dual pcb gtx 295, so hopefully the larger supply will drive down the price.
Anyhoo - I get paid next friday so I plan to buy one when it eventually does appear.
I like the look of the single pcb arrangement and hopefully some good aftermarket coolers will be released (i'd love it if thermalright had a go
). Also - as its single PCB it would make sense if they dropped the price a bit, but as there is no directly competing card I don't know if they will. However, it looks like they will be making these in larger volumes than the dual pcb gtx 295, so hopefully the larger supply will drive down the price. Anyhoo - I get paid next friday so I plan to buy one when it eventually does appear.
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With very few games coming out before windows 7, dx11, and AMD dx11 hardware which will likely in single card be more than enough power for any current game, and quite possibly faster than a 295 in newer dx11 games I can't see a single reason to waste cash on a Nvidia card right now.
the 295/285 are already horribly price cards compared to a 260gtx 216 core which you can get for what, £130 anything else in the entire Nvidia range is a joke in terms of value. The 260 has 90% of the 275 performance, 80% of the 285 performance and 60% of a 295 performance all for £130. 2x260's and a 295, without looking inside the computer you'd NEVER be able to tell the difference, your wallet would however, ok so sli = specific mobo's = a pain in the behind.
If it has to be nvidia and you don't have a 2XX series gpu, get a 260 216 core to tide you over till AMD/Nvidia dx11 cards.
Keep in mind the very real possibility that with dx11 games(which WILL come thick and fast keeping in mind all the big developers were supposed to release what were originally dx10.1 games up to 2 years ago before Nvidia had MS hack dx10 to bits, meaning for 2 years they've had experience with dx10.1, had it ready to go, and just waiting for a standard to enable it all properly) all AMD cards for the past couple years will suddenly have Tesselation and several performance boosts available making them even better bang for buck tbh. ALso keep in mind a lot of the delays on dx10 games were basically having to cut down and change dx10 significantly, up till a few months before release they were all designing for a very different DX10, when it was changed they had to radically change their games(with little incentive in a heavily crippled API they'd spent lots of money getting working in the first place). DX10 was set to come out in new games thick and fast before the change with very real performance benefits, only after it was crippled and a tonne of extra work was introduced did DX10 become useless. DX11 simply won't be the same story, its a pretty radical change with lots of very very useful improvements. Infact, its very possible that a whole heck of a lot of current games with DX10 in could be patched up for dx 10.1/11 very quickly as most of those games would have been originally intended for DX10.1 anyway. I mean Assasins creed almost certainly will have its dx10.1 re-enabled, how many other dx10 games are really dx10.1 with a bunch of things disabled?
No matter how much cash you have, unless you game on a 30" screen theres a handful of games a single 260/4870 can't handle, theres even less a 275/4890 overclocked can't handle. Exactly 3 months away from DX11 and probably only 2 months away from the first dx11 hardware, with the normally very dry Summer months ahead for gaming I'd say spending on a high end card at this point is the worst move.
The highest end cards devalue the worst when new tech comes out, so buying the newest card, at this stage is insane, especially with the deals on a 260/4870 right now.
hell, picking up a 2nd hand 260/4870 now from those who are needlessly upgrading offers even better value right now.
the 295/285 are already horribly price cards compared to a 260gtx 216 core which you can get for what, £130 anything else in the entire Nvidia range is a joke in terms of value. The 260 has 90% of the 275 performance, 80% of the 285 performance and 60% of a 295 performance all for £130. 2x260's and a 295, without looking inside the computer you'd NEVER be able to tell the difference, your wallet would however, ok so sli = specific mobo's = a pain in the behind.
If it has to be nvidia and you don't have a 2XX series gpu, get a 260 216 core to tide you over till AMD/Nvidia dx11 cards.
Keep in mind the very real possibility that with dx11 games(which WILL come thick and fast keeping in mind all the big developers were supposed to release what were originally dx10.1 games up to 2 years ago before Nvidia had MS hack dx10 to bits, meaning for 2 years they've had experience with dx10.1, had it ready to go, and just waiting for a standard to enable it all properly) all AMD cards for the past couple years will suddenly have Tesselation and several performance boosts available making them even better bang for buck tbh. ALso keep in mind a lot of the delays on dx10 games were basically having to cut down and change dx10 significantly, up till a few months before release they were all designing for a very different DX10, when it was changed they had to radically change their games(with little incentive in a heavily crippled API they'd spent lots of money getting working in the first place). DX10 was set to come out in new games thick and fast before the change with very real performance benefits, only after it was crippled and a tonne of extra work was introduced did DX10 become useless. DX11 simply won't be the same story, its a pretty radical change with lots of very very useful improvements. Infact, its very possible that a whole heck of a lot of current games with DX10 in could be patched up for dx 10.1/11 very quickly as most of those games would have been originally intended for DX10.1 anyway. I mean Assasins creed almost certainly will have its dx10.1 re-enabled, how many other dx10 games are really dx10.1 with a bunch of things disabled?
No matter how much cash you have, unless you game on a 30" screen theres a handful of games a single 260/4870 can't handle, theres even less a 275/4890 overclocked can't handle. Exactly 3 months away from DX11 and probably only 2 months away from the first dx11 hardware, with the normally very dry Summer months ahead for gaming I'd say spending on a high end card at this point is the worst move.
The highest end cards devalue the worst when new tech comes out, so buying the newest card, at this stage is insane, especially with the deals on a 260/4870 right now.
hell, picking up a 2nd hand 260/4870 now from those who are needlessly upgrading offers even better value right now.
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Drunkenmaster, you make some very good and valid points. Agreed, the new DX11 cars will eat all our current tech for breakfast. However, for my 1920p +720p monitor setup I would ideally like more performance than a single gtx260 can offer (was just running 2x9800gtx which is pretty close). Also, the 40nm chips seem to be having some serious problems at the moment and I'm not keen on waiting much longer, more likely Christmas before they arrive.
With the new single PCB i'm hoping the gtx295 to drop to around £300. As the performance seems to scale very well it should keep me playing games on full settings for a long while yet. Also, in the future I can always sell the 295 or give it to my sister before moving on to the newer cards.
With the new single PCB i'm hoping the gtx295 to drop to around £300. As the performance seems to scale very well it should keep me playing games on full settings for a long while yet. Also, in the future I can always sell the 295 or give it to my sister before moving on to the newer cards.
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Drunkenmaster, i totally agree with you... i was actually looking for an opinion on what to get which was shall i wait a little longer... or just splash out my money and go for the GTX 295. Still thinking about it but my mind is set at buying the 295...
I'm hoping to get my PC within the next 3 weeks.. i've been waiting so long for it, like 3-4 months
.
Now all I'm waiting for is the single PCB to arrive in the UK EVGA version of course, so that i can finally get building.
TBH i don't even think that the new DX11 cards will be out this year, maybe from ATI but not from Nvidia, I'm thinking about early next year.
Anyways hopefully the single PCB is released soon, im getting tired of waiting!
I'm hoping to get my PC within the next 3 weeks.. i've been waiting so long for it, like 3-4 months
.Now all I'm waiting for is the single PCB to arrive in the UK EVGA version of course, so that i can finally get building
.TBH i don't even think that the new DX11 cards will be out this year, maybe from ATI but not from Nvidia, I'm thinking about early next year.
Anyways hopefully the single PCB is released soon, im getting tired of waiting!
Sorry for bumping an old thread but I didn't want to start a new one as the answer I get will probably consist of no more than a sentence or two. And this is also the most recent thread which is closely related to my (ignorant) question....
What is the difference between single and dual PCB cards? In fact what is this PCB thingie?
What is the difference between single and dual PCB cards? In fact what is this PCB thingie?
PCB= Printed circuit board, so the original dual pcb cards litearlly have two boards sandwiched together whereas the single pcb version has two gpu chips on just the one board.
performance will be the same but you might have slightly lower temps and power consumption
performance will be the same but you might have slightly lower temps and power consumption
