3060 (Ti), 6700 XT or 3070 for Quest 2?

Robert Walker

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Howdy folks - appreciate any advice or experience you can offer...

Got me an Oculus Quest 2 to help tide the gaming gap. For day-to-day gaming, I run 1080p so a 3060 will be plenty, but I hope to plug the Quest 2 into the PC to play a few things. Elite Dangerous, MS Flight Sim, that sort of thing most likely my mainstay but interested in FPS so Half Life Alyx is bound to get played as well.

While I don't want to spend too much on a graphics card (as I say, a bog standard 3060 will do for my desktop gaming) I'm guessing for a good VR experience I'm better off going up to one of these higher cards: 3060Ti, 6700XT or 3070. Anyone got any experience of these cards and games and got any suggestions. Do I need to go higher still?

Thanks all
 
I would recommend getting a 3060Ti at the minimum. I would only go for higher if you could get your hands on a 3080FE or 6800XT at MSRP.

I don't think a 3070 or a 6700XT provides a large enough jump in performance over the 3060Ti to be worth considering. While the 3060Ti is a big improvement in VR over the 3060.
 
melmac said:
I would recommend getting a 3060Ti at the minimum. I would only go for higher if you could get your hands on a 3080FE or 6800XT at MSRP.

I don't think a 3070 or a 6700XT provides a large enough jump in performance over the 3060Ti to be worth considering. While the 3060Ti is a big improvement in VR over the 3060.
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Thank you - that's good to know. I thought the plain 3060 might be a bit wheezy. 3060Ti was my preferred card and if the 3070 / 6700 are only marginally better then the only reason to go for them would be availability rather than performance - again, really handy to know.

Out of interest - what's the step up like for the 3080 / 6800? Is it higher frame rates, better visual fidelity, better visual effects, all of them? As I've only done VR on the Quest 2's internal chip so far, it's the only experience I've had so I'm not really sure how to pose the question if you get what I mean.

Much appreciated.
 
Even a 3090 can't max out all VR games. Get the best card you can afford and get actually hold of.

Better cards allow you to run at higher resolution and/or refresh rate and therefore get a much clearer and/or smoother experience.

Of course this varies from game to game. Older titles will run very well on most modern cards. It's sims, and VR conversions of 2D games that tend to require beefier hardware.
 
Robert Walker said:
Thank you - that's good to know. I thought the plain 3060 might be a bit wheezy. 3060Ti was my preferred card and if the 3070 / 6700 are only marginally better then the only reason to go for them would be availability rather than performance - again, really handy to know.

Out of interest - what's the step up like for the 3080 / 6800? Is it higher frame rates, better visual fidelity, better visual effects, all of them? As I've only done VR on the Quest 2's internal chip so far, it's the only experience I've had so I'm not really sure how to pose the question if you get what I mean.

Much appreciated.
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A bit Wheezy :D Perfect description :)

The 3060Ti is a solid offering. Almost as fast as the 3070 while been more available.

The step up to the 3080/6800Xt is all of the above things you mentioned. But, the higher cards are only worth buying if you get them very close to MSRP.

How are you finding the visuals on Quest 2 so far? Do you think the games look good? What games have you tried?
 
Robert Walker said:
Out of interest - what's the step up like for the 3080 / 6800? Is it higher frame rates, better visual fidelity, better visual effects, all of them?
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In my current PC I've had a 1080, a 2080 super, a 2080ti and a 3090. For sim type games each was a step up in terms of the resolution or refresh rate or game settings I could run but none of the steps was a night and day difference. Still have to balance resolution, frame rate and settings for the best experience even with the 3090. HL Alyx ran surprising well on the 1080 but with a modern CPU, doesn't run so well on the 2080ti and old cpu.
 
I had a 1080ti then upgraded to a 3090FE, specifically for VR. For 2D games the 1080ti was still excellent at 1440p

For VR having the 3090 has made a big difference for most games, especially heavily modded SkyrimVR as I can now up the supersampling (on an Index) to get a sharper picture.

Some games still have very poor performance. Subnautica is one, and NMS is another. This seems to be CPU related rather than GPU related though, even though I have a 3900x.
 
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melmac said:
A bit Wheezy :D Perfect description :)

The 3060Ti is a solid offering. Almost as fast as the 3070 while been more available.

The step up to the 3080/6800Xt is all of the above things you mentioned. But, the higher cards are only worth buying if you get them very close to MSRP.

How are you finding the visuals on Quest 2 so far? Do you think the games look good? What games have you tried?
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Available where?
 
melmac said:
How are you finding the visuals on Quest 2 so far? Do you think the games look good? What games have you tried?
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I've been really impressed with it as a piece of kit. Set up is a doddle. Tracking can be a bit iffy sometimes, especially when the sun comes round to this side of the house.

Games... so far I've only really done "get off your butt during lockdown and move around games" so Beat Sabre (90% of my time on this), Oh Shape and Dance Central. I've also watched some 3d videos and done a couple of odd bits like the rollercoaster sim. I'm going to try some of the FPS, but so much else to do and trying to get ahead in Beat Sabre has been a focus for me. Visually I again think it's amazing what they're able to do with a mobile chip. My biggest worry was whether I'd experience delays with the head tracking and get sick but it's been great. However, I've ZERO experience of any other VR so I really can't say if the graphics are "good" or "bad", but for a noob I think it's amazing. That's also why I got the Quest 2 as it was a reasonable price for dipping your toe in, and then I'll also be able to connect it to the PC. Couldn't justify dropping a grand on a Valve Index only to find I hated it or didn't use it.
 
Robert Walker said:
I've been really impressed with it as a piece of kit. Set up is a doddle. Tracking can be a bit iffy sometimes, especially when the sun comes round to this side of the house.

Games... so far I've only really done "get off your butt during lockdown and move around games" so Beat Sabre (90% of my time on this), Oh Shape and Dance Central. I've also watched some 3d videos and done a couple of odd bits like the rollercoaster sim. I'm going to try some of the FPS, but so much else to do and trying to get ahead in Beat Sabre has been a focus for me. Visually I again think it's amazing what they're able to do with a mobile chip. My biggest worry was whether I'd experience delays with the head tracking and get sick but it's been great. However, I've ZERO experience of any other VR so I really can't say if the graphics are "good" or "bad", but for a noob I think it's amazing. That's also why I got the Quest 2 as it was a reasonable price for dipping your toe in, and then I'll also be able to connect it to the PC. Couldn't justify dropping a grand on a Valve Index only to find I hated it or didn't use it.
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The Quest 2 is brilliant and glad you are enjoying your experience :) There is a group of us who play casual multiplayer games, if that is something that might interest you when you get your new GPU, let us know.

If you find the graphics of the standalone games fine, then you will be very happy with the graphics when you connect to the PC. So, I think there is no need for you to buy anything more than the 3060Ti.
 
Thank you - appreciate everyone's advice. I'll get in touch once graphics cards have started to become available at a not unreasonable price. In the meantime, stand alone games are plenty to keep me busy...

Cheers
 
Robert Walker said:
Thank you - appreciate everyone's advice. I'll get in touch once graphics cards have started to become available at a not unreasonable price. In the meantime, stand alone games are plenty to keep me busy...

Cheers
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Keep posting though. It's a long way away, and spam is not allowed, but graphics cards are being sold at a much closer price to MSRP in the members only section here by OCUK (they say they can't sell for less, since they'd be making a loss). I got my 6700xt for £450 through one of these.

Even if the special offers are over by the time you get 1000 posts, it's still well worth doing since you get access to the members market, a private 2nd hand sales section. Some prices are very good, but most importantly, it's very trustworthy.

And besides, we're a nice enough bunch.
 
I discovered the forum earlier this year, and have been a reader but am not much of one for posting on these things (Lemon Fool is the only other one I bother with). I'm impressed by the community and I'm really pleased with the way OCUK are trying to get cards into gamers hands (and appreciate no system is perfect) - definitely deserve my hard earned going forwards. Tbh I expect graphics card availability to have normalised before I get to the MM, but as you say, knowing that you're dealing with people that care and are passionate (and are more likely to tell the truth about the life of kit) is worth it's weight in gold, so should I qualify one day then that will be great. Happy to have joined the community and hopefully my contributions will earn me a place over time (and I'll try to avoid spamming, flaming or any of that BS). Anyway, I'm off topic... so I will ask a relevant question...

melmac said:
There is a group of us who play casual multiplayer games, if that is something that might interest you when you get your new GPU, let us know.
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What are the multiplayer games? The stuff I've looked at so far I assume is mostly single player... Half Life Alyx, Warhammer Sister of Battle, um, yeah, that's probably it. I think Population One is multiplayer. TBH I prefer FPS as a single player campaign, but am planning to play flight & space sims - Elite Dangerous, MS Flight Sim and Star Wars Squadrons (all of which have multiplayer / persistent universes).
 
Robert Walker said:
I discovered the forum earlier this year, and have been a reader but am not much of one for posting on these things (Lemon Fool is the only other one I bother with). I'm impressed by the community and I'm really pleased with the way OCUK are trying to get cards into gamers hands (and appreciate no system is perfect) - definitely deserve my hard earned going forwards. Tbh I expect graphics card availability to have normalised before I get to the MM, but as you say, knowing that you're dealing with people that care and are passionate (and are more likely to tell the truth about the life of kit) is worth it's weight in gold, so should I qualify one day then that will be great. Happy to have joined the community and hopefully my contributions will earn me a place over time (and I'll try to avoid spamming, flaming or any of that BS). Anyway, I'm off topic... so I will ask a relevant question...



What are the multiplayer games? The stuff I've looked at so far I assume is mostly single player... Half Life Alyx, Warhammer Sister of Battle, um, yeah, that's probably it. I think Population One is multiplayer. TBH I prefer FPS as a single player campaign, but am planning to play flight & space sims - Elite Dangerous, MS Flight Sim and Star Wars Squadrons (all of which have multiplayer / persistent universes).
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About the first part of your post. I don't know why people think it's so hard to post on these forums, like it's some kind of onerous task. There are some sections of the forum that are full of fighting and nonsense, but, most of the forums is just people talking about stuff they like and helping out other people if they can. This section of the forum is great. All people interested in VR with some banter thrown in. Most of the topics here go way off topic but nobody really cares :)

As for Multiplayer games there are so many. Everything from FPS to RPG to sports games. A game some of us OCUK players play most Mondays is Star Trek Bridge Crew. Where you and 3 others are crew aboard a Star Ship. It sounds cheesy, but it's a great Social experience.

Some More Notable Examples:

Eleven: Table Tennis. (worth getting just to be amazed at how real it feels)
Walkabout Mini Golf ( Fun and Casual and another great social game)
Pulsar: Lost Colony (another crew aboard a Space game with away missions. Haven't played this yet, it's on our list of games to play)
Rec Room. (A game full of games. You can go paintballing, play Dodgeball, Go on Quests with 3 others and much much more)
Forever Bowl (A bowling Game)
Demeo (a Table top RPG, dungeons and dragons type game in VR. Another good social game)

Then of course there is all the FPS shooters and Car Racing Sims, flight sims etc.
 
As part of the regular star trek crew, it's great fun. Social vr is a massive step above regular social gaming in my mind.

In no other game could my crew mates have looked around at me, wondering why I was quiet (mic stopped working), but waving my arms around like a lunatic every time they talked about going to impulse drive :D.
 
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