3070 FE - Cooling Required?

ijb1989

ijb1989

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Morning all - hope this is OK to post here but please move if not

I've just managed to buy a NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Founders Edition and wanted to know whether I would also need to buy additional cooling? it's going into a build with a Ryzen 5 5600x, b550F Strix MOBO and 32GB Ram in case that additional info changes things. The only cooling other than the case fans is the Wraith Stealth cooler that came with the 5600x when I bought that.

Thanks in advance
 
What case do you have? How many fans do you have in it?

You won't need any additional cooling - best to just install the card and monitor temperatures. If they are too high/ thermal throttling then show us your case and fan setup.

Your CPU cooler nearly always won't have an affect on your GPU thermals - it almost exclusively comes down your case and fan setup.
 
Pocket10s said:
What case do you have? How many fans do you have in it?

You won't need any additional cooling - best to just install the card and monitor temperatures. If they are too high/ thermal throttling then show us your case and fan setup.

Your CPU cooler nearly always won't have an affect on your GPU thermals - it almost exclusively comes down your case and fan setup.
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pretty much this. It’s case, air flow, intake / vent fan location, and if you keep your filters clean.

Technically, you could swap the shroud too. I’d recommend that as an expert option. I found it very challenging :)
 
Unless case is one of those different for the sake of different upside down cases with CPU positioned below expansion cards CPU won't really affect GPU temperature.

But that Wraith Stealth is typical chronically undersized cooler sized for playing MS Word and not enough if you care about performance.
Would start from some 120mm fan model like this Jonsbo.
Jonsbo CR-1000 120mm RGB CPU Cooler - Black= £20.99
 
Just populate all the fan slots in your system.

but definitely out a 120mm tower cooler on the cpu, Your card will dump a lot of heat into the case so extra cooling will be needed
 
I agree with the sentiments to purchase a tower cooler, as well as keeping your CPU cooler it will help funnel the hot air from the GPU to the rear out take fan (assuming it's standard case). Anything £20+ should suffice, but i'd read/watch a couple of reviews on whatever you choose before buying.
 
Pocket10s said:
What case do you have? How many fans do you have in it?

You won't need any additional cooling - best to just install the card and monitor temperatures. If they are too high/ thermal throttling then show us your case and fan setup.

Your CPU cooler nearly always won't have an affect on your GPU thermals - it almost exclusively comes down your case and fan setup.
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I have a Phanteks case - think it's the P400A. It has 3 fans at the front, and I put an extra one in at the back when I built the PC last January.

Alan McFall said:
I agree with the sentiments to purchase a tower cooler, as well as keeping your CPU cooler it will help funnel the hot air from the GPU to the rear out take fan (assuming it's standard case). Anything £20+ should suffice, but i'd read/watch a couple of reviews on whatever you choose before buying.
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Apologies if this is a daft/naive question, but is the tower cooler an extra cooler that runs in conjunction with the CPU cooling, rather than instead of the Wraith that came with my CPU? Once I know for sure, I'll get one this week. Would you avoid using the machine to game until I've installed it so that I dont over exert it?

Also I've installed the GPU, but didn't uninstall old drivers first. Could someone let me know what I need to do now to get the drivers for the new card sorted without it defaulting to old ones?

Thanks in advance!
 
ijb1989 said:
Apologies if this is a daft/naive question, but is the tower cooler an extra cooler that runs in conjunction with the CPU cooling, rather than instead of the Wraith that came with my CPU? Once I know for sure, I'll get one this week. Would you avoid using the machine to game until I've installed it so that I dont over exert it?
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The tower cooler will replace the Wraith, glad you asked as you will need to make sure you buy some thermal paste aswell. The computer will be fine, CPU's are designed to throttle (run slower) if they get too hot, you'll just lose performance.
 
ijb1989 said:
Also I've installed the GPU, but didn't uninstall old drivers first. Could someone let me know what I need to do now to get the drivers for the new card sorted without it defaulting to old ones?

Thanks in advance!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmbPJwm3BwA

He waffles a bit but its user friendly :) You can follow the steps with your new card already installed, you dont need to put the old one back in.
 
Alan McFall said:
The tower cooler will replace the Wraith, glad you asked as you will need to make sure you buy some thermal paste aswell. The computer will be fine, CPU's are designed to throttle (run slower) if they get too hot, you'll just lose performance.
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Thanks a lot for both your responses. Would the Noctua NH-U12A CPU Cooler be alright do you think? I know it's closer to £80 but it's well reviewed. I'm happy with spending a bit more to make sure it's as good as it can be, but am also not particularly fond of wasting money!
 
ijb1989 said:
Thanks a lot for both your responses. Would the Noctua NH-U12A CPU Cooler be alright do you think? I know it's closer to £80 but it's well reviewed. I'm happy with spending a bit more to make sure it's as good as it can be, but am also not particularly fond of wasting money!
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massive over kill and not needed but yes it would work. A dark rock pro is about half the price and a fantastic cooler
 
ijb1989 said:
Cheers again for the response - would that be this one? https://www.overclockers.co.uk/be-q...US6uTK3BAZmAFiUKrfcihEaQR5GqhWfoaAvZSEALw_wcB
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it would be fine but again not needed. Any good branded cooler of 120mm will do fine.
To be clear any good cooler of 92mm will out perform the stock cooler. My brother as a dual fan 92mm cooler on a 3700x and it run quiet and never throttles its speed.
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/arct...US6uTK3BAZmAFiUKrfcihEaQR5GqhWfoaAvZSEALw_wcB
 
ijb1989 said:
Cheers again for the response - would that be this one? https://www.overclockers.co.uk/be-q...US6uTK3BAZmAFiUKrfcihEaQR5GqhWfoaAvZSEALw_wcB
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I spent £26 for a tower cooler for my 5600x because it was the best on offer at the time but spending a little more is a good investment as your cooler can be re used, the technology doesn't change too much. I have done a little core tweaking and optimised my case airflow as best I know how. Here are the results, Cinebench is a CPU intensive bunchmark (room temp is 21 - 22C) :

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To be honest, given the airflow that you will already have in a P400A with 3 intake fans (a lot) you don't need to overbuy here, the Noctua is a lovely piece of kit, but given your component selection and case etc, I would honestly just recommend the trusty old Cooler Master Hyper 212, https://store.overclockers.co.uk/co...black-edition-cpu-cooler-120mm-hs-081-cm.html ...the Noctua is better but as I say, given the amount of airflow you already have and the components you have I really don't see you being able to leverage the advantage of it being a bit better, a 5600X is really no problem to cool. When you started the thread I had a feeling you were going to say you'ed got all this in some hotbox of a case, but you really don't, a P400A with those 3 DRGB fans at the front and an extra at the back is something I ran a system in for a while myself and it's a lot of airflow there, you can run the fans quite slowly and thus quietly and still move plenty of air through it too so it's a good place to be.

There is no problem using a the stock AMD cooler on the 5600X, especially when you actually do have decent airflow around it, it wont hurt and if it gets too hot it will just throttle anyway, it wont blow up. But, as said, it could hold back performance under heavy loads and they are just small and buzzy and they irritate me, the smallish fan on them is quite audible and you hear it kick up and down quite a lot, a decent tower like any of the ones we have mentioned here will passively cool better and the larger more effective fan will actively cool better aswell, thus no need for annoying buzzy little fans kicking up and down everytime you open something.
 
In a great case like the P400 the Wraith will never let the 5600X overheat, it will just get loud.

If you have a problem with the noise then get a new cooler.
 
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