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3070ti upgrade path?

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Finding the 8gb vram an issue at 1440p with the 3070ti. I've got a fully water-cooled build with 2x 480mm rads and I really don't fancy an air cooled card. That with the 5000 series release it's like a mine field coupled with the fact waterblocks are sparse right now I'm really unsure what to do?

Wait a few months for 5000 series stock to increase and hope waterblocks are produced or take a punt on a 2nd hand 4000 series. The 4070ti super looked ideal with 16gb vram and byski do waterblocks for them but is it a dumb time to be buying a 4070ti super especially when I own a 3070ti that will do 2100mhz all day long.
 
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4070ti super would be the minimum acceptable performance upgrade (>50%) from the 3070ti so it's a valid option, and you have double the vram
not too sure on used pricing
if buying new, then when compared to the 4000 super series, the non-5090 rtx 5000 series cards are unlikely to give much of a performance gain if the trend of 5080 vs 4080 super performance gains are to be replicated to the product stack below (which i highly suspect it will)
 
If you're going to the trouble of buying/fitting a block, I'd want a bigger upgrade really, so would hope for an improved 5070 Ti (though, from what we've seen so far, it won't be by much).

From what we've heard, the manufacturers had very little time to prepare for this release, so it seems likely blocks for the 5000 series are a long way off.
 
If you're going to the trouble of buying/fitting a block, I'd want a bigger upgrade really, so would hope for an improved 5070 Ti (though, from what we've seen so far, it won't be by much).

From what we've heard, the manufacturers had very little time to prepare for this release, so it seems likely blocks for the 5000 series are a long way off.
This was my biggest concern I could be waiting quite some time to be honest. There's still a few 4070ti supers floating about that have byski blocks available. I've got one on my 3070ti and it's been great thus far. I don't ever plan on going 4k or playing on my 4k tv so it might seem to look at anything past the 4070ti
 
If you're going to the trouble of buying/fitting a block, I'd want a bigger upgrade really, so would hope for an improved 5070 Ti (though, from what we've seen so far, it won't be by much).

From what we've heard, the manufacturers had very little time to prepare for this release, so it seems likely blocks for the 5000 series are a long way off.
Tbh it's not really time consuming or a problem as I tend to keep my kit for quite some time. I only got the 3070ti because I won it(was quite happy with my 1080ti) so it only owes me the cost of the water block really. I just don't want to take a risk with a 5000 series leaving it air cooled for a while to find out no blocks will be produced etc
 
Maybe worth waiting till march and see how the 9070XT stacks up, RT is much improved while performance is rumoured to be between a 4070ti and 4080, supposedly there will be a lot of stock.
I'm a bit out the AMD loop so was not aware of this. I'll have a look into it as willing to consider AMD if price/performance is on point.
 
Tbh it's not really time consuming or a problem as I tend to keep my kit for quite some time. I only got the 3070ti because I won it(was quite happy with my 1080ti) so it only owes me the cost of the water block really. I just don't want to take a risk with a 5000 series leaving it air cooled for a while to find out no blocks will be produced etc
I would not bother with a waterblock for a GPU just be glad to get an upgrade at a decent price and time, also easier to sell the used GPU then too.
 
I'm a bit out the AMD loop so was not aware of this. I'll have a look into it as willing to consider AMD if price/performance is on point.

Considering where you are and the slim pickings we are looking at the 4070ti super and 5070 ti segment then it's worth having a look at least.
 
Maybe worth waiting till march and see how the 9070XT stacks up, RT is much improved while performance is rumoured to be between a 4070ti and 4080, supposedly there will be a lot of stock.

agree with this, tbh honest the whole Nvidia lineup is not looking good at any price point granted we dont know the price of the 5070ti but we all know what nvidia will do, Wait to see how the 9070xt stacks up, it should be released sometime march so not long left. If it trades blows with 4080 as leaks suggest and good ray tracing then it would be a perfect pick for you.
 
I would not bother with a waterblock for a GPU just be glad to get an upgrade at a decent price and time, also easier to sell the used GPU then too.
Air cooled gpu can not provide me with the level of silence I want/am used too.

My whole build is cooled by 2x 480mm rads running at 20% fan speed. It would be crazy to then put an air cooled gpu in there. I've undervolted/overclocked my cpu and overclocked my gpu I'm getting less then 60⁰c when gaming on the cpu and less than 50⁰c on the gpu with a 61⁰c hot-spot at 20% fan.

Replacing the waterblock with the original air cooled unit is not an issue but I'll probably own it for so long it will be a relic anyway. I've only just last month moved from my 5820k.
 
I'm in a similar-ish position - 2070 Super and was waiting for 50 series to upgrade, but it presently seems a damp squib.

5070(TI) are coming out 20th Feb - but review embargo is also 20th Feb. Technically the embargo is until 19th for board's matching Nvidia's MSRP of £729 - but after 5080/90 I doubt there's many at MSRP...

AMD's 9070XT is rumoured to be coming out 6th March - i've got the impression it's expected to have similar raw performance, more VRAM, but slower RT. It "should" be a bit cheaper, but who knows... Reviews possibly a few days before - if they know it's better than the 5070ti then they could "leak" some by then???

In an ideal world, where there's easy stock of both, it would make sense to wait for both reviews to compare... but with present 50 series stock I would guess a lot of people will jumping on a 5070(ti) queue as soon as they can, before reading a review, and if 9070XT seems a beast then cancel their queue position if it's not been shipped by then, or return under 14 days distance selling regulations if they already have it?
 
I'm in a similar-ish position - 2070 Super and was waiting for 50 series to upgrade, but it presently seems a damp squib.

5070(TI) are coming out 20th Feb - but review embargo is also 20th Feb. Technically the embargo is until 19th for board's matching Nvidia's MSRP of £729 - but after 5080/90 I doubt there's many at MSRP...

AMD's 9070XT is rumoured to be coming out 6th March - i've got the impression it's expected to have similar raw performance, more VRAM, but slower RT. It "should" be a bit cheaper, but who knows... Reviews possibly a few days before - if they know it's better than the 5070ti then they could "leak" some by then???

In an ideal world, where there's easy stock of both, it would make sense to wait for both reviews to compare... but with present 50 series stock I would guess a lot of people will jumping on a 5070(ti) queue as soon as they can, before reading a review, and if 9070XT seems a beast then cancel their queue position if it's not been shipped by then, or return under 14 days distance selling regulations if they already have it?
Yeah the 5070ti price may be close to the 5080 FE it's sickening I can't see many jumping on it if that's the case, I will be waiting to see how to price performance of it and the 9700XT stack up to the 4080S and 5080.
 
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Yeah the 5070ti price may be close to the 5080 FE it's sickening I can't see many jumping on it if that's the case, I will be waiting to see how to price performance of it and the 9700XT stack up to the 4080S and 5080.

Prices won't settle until the 9070xt is on the shelves in decent numbers. The least we can expect is performance somewhere between the 4070ti and 4080, so firmly in the same class as the 5070ti.

AMD normally undercuts Nvidia, so if they overdeliver on the performance front as well then all bets are off.
 
Yeah the 5070ti price may be close to the 5080 FE it's sickening I can't see many jumping on it if that's the case,

That’s what I’m worrying about. I can imagine stock still being in short supply and AIB RTX 5070Ti’s selling for ~£1000 based on 5080 pricing!

Truly grim.. :(
 
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Air cooled gpu can not provide me with the level of silence I want/am used too.

My whole build is cooled by 2x 480mm rads running at 20% fan speed. It would be crazy to then put an air cooled gpu in there. I've undervolted/overclocked my cpu and overclocked my gpu I'm getting less then 60⁰c when gaming on the cpu and less than 50⁰c on the gpu with a 61⁰c hot-spot at 20% fan.

Replacing the waterblock with the original air cooled unit is not an issue but I'll probably own it for so long it will be a relic anyway. I've only just last month moved from my 5820k.
man they overbuild the new coolers, I have a 4080 and the fans aren't on and while I'm sure they must come on I've never seen it nor heard it. It's more volume than the rest of the components put together but I guess it's part of how they justify the doubling in prices or so GPUs have underwent, idk
 
If you are fully committed to sticking with water cooling, and as you said committed to keeping it until it is worthless, then the only option is either a 4080 Super or a 4090 (better choice) with a water block already on it, seen a Suprim sell last week for £1450 locally, with the block already on and the original cooler and box, receipt etc included.
 
Air cooled gpu can not provide me with the level of silence I want/am used too.

My whole build is cooled by 2x 480mm rads running at 20% fan speed. It would be crazy to then put an air cooled gpu in there. I've undervolted/overclocked my cpu and overclocked my gpu I'm getting less then 60⁰c when gaming on the cpu and less than 50⁰c on the gpu with a 61⁰c hot-spot at 20% fan.

Replacing the waterblock with the original air cooled unit is not an issue but I'll probably own it for so long it will be a relic anyway. I've only just last month moved from my 5820k.

EK announces waterblocks for GeForce RTX 5090/5080 graphics cards, price starts at €290​

 
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