3080 issues or maybe my PC or settings - Gaming on a TV

Mensy · 3 Nov 2020 at 16:58

So ive managed to bag a 3080 FE model but im getting Stutters and fps drops all the time.

Im running at 4k 60fps on a Sony OLED and getting constant drops dips and stutters in a lot of games.

Im currently playing Horizon zero dawn at 4k on ultra at 60 fps and im getting drops to 45fps and getting constant stutters to 59 fps even in cut scenes im currently standing on a bridge at 45fps but gpu % only at 81% shouldnt it be at like 99% ?? My gpu temp is 69 c

Spec are

3700x
3080 FE
16gb Corsair 3400 mhz with XMP enabled
Using a Sony AF8 OLED
850W corsair psu

adrichardson81 · 3 Nov 2020 at 17:58

Have you tried setting power management to max performance in the nvidia control panel?

JamesPliskin · 3 Nov 2020 at 18:02

How about your CPU utilization?

Mensy · 3 Nov 2020 at 22:38

adrichardson81 said:
Have you tried setting power management to max performance in the nvidia control panel?

Yes its on max and ive also changed it in windows to AMD performance mode

JamesPliskin said:
How about your CPU utilization?

Just checked my cpu utilization in game and that seems to hover around 25-35 % and my temps are around 50 on cpu.

Im wondering if its just the games. ive popped Res 3 on playing at 4k ultra 60fps and albeit ive only been on it 15 mins it hasnt stuttered or dropped below 60 yet

JamesPliskin · 4 Nov 2020 at 15:42

Mensy said:
Im wondering if its just the games. ive popped Res 3 on playing at 4k ultra 60fps and albeit ive only been on it 15 mins it hasnt stuttered or dropped below 60 yet

That's quite likely. Horizon Zero Dawn is a port from the consoles after all. Plus, when it was released, there were a few articles about people with very capable hardware having issues running it at reasonable fps.

no_1_dave · 4 Nov 2020 at 19:36

IIRC there are known issues with HZD when using a CPU with 16 or more threads

otester · 4 Nov 2020 at 20:17

I wouldn't judge a gpu based on one title alone.

otester · 4 Nov 2020 at 20:17

no_1_dave said:
IIRC there are known issues with HZD when using a CPU with 16 or more threads

Could try limiting the app to less than 16 threads.

Poneros · 4 Nov 2020 at 20:58

Check your GPU is at x16 PCI-e 4.0 with GPU-Z
Run with no vsync or frame limiter
Max your power limit
Install on the SSD
Disable full-screen optimisations for the game (right click exe -> properties -> compatibility)

Mensy · 5 Nov 2020 at 10:45

JamesPliskin said:
That's quite likely. Horizon Zero Dawn is a port from the consoles after all. Plus, when it was released, there were a few articles about people with very capable hardware having issues running it at reasonable fps.

Well batch 1.7 has come out so hopefully that may help towards performance, ive watched some benchmark vids on youtube and they look like there performing better than me with less dips

no_1_dave said:
IIRC there are known issues with HZD when using a CPU with 16 or more threads

Never heard about that

otester said:
I wouldn't judge a gpu based on one title alone.

Well all other games i have are old which the 3080 will be able to handle with ease, Horizon and control are probably the most demanding games i currently have until Cyberpunk comes out in 2077

Poneros said:
Check your GPU is at x16 PCI-e 4.0 with GPU-Z
Run with no vsync or frame limiter
Max your power limit
Install on the SSD
Disable full-screen optimisations for the game (right click exe -> properties -> compatibility)

Il give them ago and see if that helps.

Mensy · 8 Nov 2020 at 11:11

So ive tried a few things and im still not happy.

If i turn vsync off my fps shoots up and never drops below 60fps but i have terrible screen tearing
As soon as i put vsync on it obviously stop the tearing and its nice a smooth but it keeps dropping and giving me litter stutters to 59fps, why does it drop to 59 fps when it doesnt even hit that with vsync off ? its annoying me and making me want to sell my PC and just get a PS5 as i never have these stutters on my PS4 even tho i assume the fps are dropping on that too

no_1_dave · 8 Nov 2020 at 12:11

Mensy said:
So ive tried a few things and im still not happy.

If i turn vsync off my fps shoots up and never drops below 60fps but i have terrible screen tearing
As soon as i put vsync on it obviously stop the tearing and its nice a smooth but it keeps dropping and giving me litter stutters to 59fps, why does it drop to 59 fps when it doesnt even hit that with vsync off ? its annoying me and making me want to sell my PC and just get a PS5 as i never have these stutters on my PS4 even tho i assume the fps are dropping on that too

59 is probably just the reading on screen, it's probably 59.99 or something similar within a margin of error around 60fps.
All the cards I've ever owned have shown 59-61fps when using v-sync

I'm playing HZD at 4k and the fps was too high so I've also used vsync for a rock solid 60fps. I don't feel any stuttering, it's as smooth as silk.
GPU usage rarely hits 100% and the boost clock doesn't even boost up to 1980 I see in more demanding titles so you definitely should not be dropping to 45fps or getting stuttering.

Is the game fully up to date?
Drivers up to date?
Motherboard bios up to date?

Tried other games? Latest HZD patch does say:

CPUs that have more than 16 threads might experience a higher amount of instability
Some players are experiencing performance issues on specific GPUs or hardware combinations

So could be just a bug in the game with your specific hardware combination...

Mensy · 8 Nov 2020 at 12:18

no_1_dave said:
59 is probably just the reading on screen, it's probably 59.99 or something similar within a margin of error around 60fps.
All the cards I've ever owned have shown 59-61fps when using v-sync

I'm playing HZD at 4k and the fps was too high so I've also used vsync for a rock solid 60fps. I don't feel any stuttering, it's as smooth as silk.
GPU usage rarely hits 100% and the boost clock doesn't even boost up to 1980 I see in more demanding titles so you definitely should not be dropping to 45fps or getting stuttering.

Is the game fully up to date?
Drivers up to date?
Motherboard bios up to date?

Tried other games? Latest HZD patch does say:

So could be just a bug in the game with your specific hardware combination...

Yes everything is up to date all drivers etc.
Its not just happening in this game its also doing it on resident evil 3. With vsync off im hitting over 100 fps putting vsync on im still getting drops and stutters as it goes below 60 fps, yet when vsync is off i dont se it ever going below 70fps. Its annoying me to behonest im busy trying the frame limiter option but capping that at 60 fps i get screen tearing also.

no_1_dave · 8 Nov 2020 at 12:20

Have you tried adaptive sync in the nvidia control panel instead of in game vsync and frame limiter options?
It enables vsync above 60fps but disables it below

Mensy · 8 Nov 2020 at 12:23

no_1_dave said:
Have you tried adaptive sync in the nvidia control panel instead of in game vsync and frame limiter options?
It enables vsync above 60fps but disables it below

No i will give that ago thanx

Mensy · 8 Nov 2020 at 14:41

no_1_dave said:
Have you tried adaptive sync in the nvidia control panel instead of in game vsync and frame limiter options?
It enables vsync above 60fps but disables it below

I think that may have worked, no stutter or drop below 60 fps on horizon now, as soon as i put vsync back on it stutters when it hits 59fps but it seems to constantly drop to 59fps where with adaptive it only drops.

However it doesnt work on metro exodus i now get tearing below 60 fps hahaa im gonna have to try a work around, vsync used to work fine on my 1070 with no stutter but seems to stutter with the 3080

adrichardson81 · 9 Nov 2020 at 10:33

Mensy said:
I think that may have worked, no stutter or drop below 60 fps on horizon now, as soon as i put vsync back on it stutters when it hits 59fps but it seems to constantly drop to 59fps where with adaptive it only drops.

However it doesnt work on metro exodus i now get tearing below 60 fps hahaa im gonna have to try a work around, vsync used to work fine on my 1070 with no stutter but seems to stutter with the 3080

Try separate profiles for each game. I'm not spotting any similar issues with mine, but I'm capping frames below my frame rate and using g-sync.

Mensy · 10 Nov 2020 at 10:42

adrichardson81 said:
Try separate profiles for each game. I'm not spotting any similar issues with mine, but I'm capping frames below my frame rate and using g-sync.

I think its something running in the background but struggling to find out what it is even after looking at start up and apps running in task manager

adrichardson81 · 10 Nov 2020 at 16:26

Mensy said:
I think its something running in the background but struggling to find out what it is even after looking at start up and apps running in task manager

Try a test user profile. That should help you narrow down the culprit.

no_1_dave · 10 Nov 2020 at 18:43

Mensy said:
I think its something running in the background

Would need to be something demanding
I just played an hour of HZD while ffmpeg is encoding a 4k x265 movie pretty much maxing all my CPU cores and taking up 13GB ram

Only had the odd stutter otherwise wouldn't have noticed