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3090 To a 7900xt/x worth it?

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Gaming at 1440p 240hz (although i lock to 165 for noise reasons)

I'm tempted to move over to AMD for a few reasons
  • Software, the amount of inbuilt software, That covers my needs without additional bloat
    • would not need msi afterburner anymore as its built in ( i undervolted)
    • Fan control ( i like a silent system)
  • I've not had a AMD card since 7990! ( i had 3 and they all died)
  • although my 3090 is powerful, some games 144+ is starting to struggle, i really do like a locked FPS thats solid not jumping from 200-100
  • untouched my 3090 bios lets my card hit 83c and just sit their, MSI afterburner is a must
  • At full load my 3090 is pretty noisy averages 1860 @ 1.2mv got this to 1860 @ 850mv which saves a lot of noise
  • I don't use raytracing
  • my card does not support rebar, new BIOS does, but this only has one BIOS so could easily get corrupted
am i mad?

i would rather a lower TDP card if could to get this performance As again i prefer super slience.
 
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On average there's between 20% - 30% improvement in rasterised performance going from an RTX 3090 to a RX 7900xtx.

Logically, if you sell your RTX 3090 you will need to add roughly 50% funds on top to buy the RX 7900xtx.

Looking at just the numbers, it really doesn't seem worth it, but considering all the other factors you mention above, including a brand new warranty and off course the "new card excitement", it might be worth it.

The lesser 7900 xt though, not so much..
 
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I have the Pulse xt from Sapphire, it's by far the quietest high end card I have ever had. I don't even need to undervolt it but if I did I could probably get it so clocks stay the same and less power. Performance wise its not worth it for you but it ticks all your other boxes. You could probably sell the 3090 and with a deal not really be much out of pocket. Would have to be on a deal to be worth it though.

At my resolution 1440p raster wise it's about 20% faster than a 3090 going by tpu results.
 
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You're mad, stick with the 3090 (3090FE user here).

What sort of games do you play though? Do you really need 144Hz? I genuinely don't understand people who don't like their games to look good - get using ray tracing ffs and game at lower Hz.

90 is a sweetspot for any game unless you're into weird competitive shooter **** :)
 
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I don't think anything under 50% uplift in performance is worth spending any money on.
 
wunkley said:
I genuinely don't understand people who don't like their games to look good - get using ray tracing ffs and game at lower Hz.
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No thanks. I'm yet to see the game where ray tracing provides some sort of transformative experience that genuinely makes a game more enjoyable to play. I completely forget about graphics when I'm actually into a game and not running the benchmark over and over or taking screenshots. I turned all the RT nonsense off when I played through Cyberpunk and didn't miss it at all. The game still looks just fine without any of it, and I'd much rather have the higher framerate and better input response. I'm not stopping to stare at the reflections in puddles when in the middle of a shootout, so it makes no difference to me how they look.
 
Aretak said:
No thanks. I'm yet to see the game where ray tracing provides some sort of transformative experience that genuinely makes a game more enjoyable to play. I completely forget about graphics when I'm actually into a game and not running the benchmark over and over or taking screenshots. I turned all the RT nonsense off when I played through Cyberpunk and didn't miss it at all. The game still looks just fine without any of it, and I'd much rather have the higher framerate and better input response. I'm not stopping to stare at the reflections in puddles when in the middle of a shootout, so it makes no difference to me how they look.
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I imagine you have an AMD card.
 
I'd suggest just sticking to your 3090 for now, moving to the 7900 xtx just isn't worth the cost, especially with the miniscule performance uplift
 
The only card you should be considering if you're upgrading now is the 4090. Nothing else makes any sense money/performance wise.
 
wunkley said:
You're mad, stick with the 3090 (3090FE user here).

What sort of games do you play though? Do you really need 144Hz? I genuinely don't understand people who don't like their games to look good - get using ray tracing ffs and game at lower Hz.

90 is a sweetspot for any game unless you're into weird competitive shooter **** :)
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i don't need, but i do like a solid stable FPS i have tried 90 in past, but doesn't feel smooth enough I've locked my fps to 120, to give it ago, which is 50% of what my monitor can do.

I play wide range of games from oydesssy, hogwarts, party animals,Witcher3, Witchfire, And pretty much anything that comes out

opethdisciple said:
Not only is a 3090 plenty fast enough, but you'd be losing DLSS and Ray tracing Performance.
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3090 is plenty fast, but also Very power hungry & noisy even undervolted in most cases DLSS whilst nice, is not much different from FSR2-3

Apex said:
I don't think anything under 50% uplift in performance is worth spending any money on.
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Totally fair Response :)

Minstadave said:
I would update to a rebar bios first.

I've got a 3090 at 34" UW and nothing seems worth it other than a 4090 and isn't worth the money.
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Don't fancy the Risk, no secondary bios on my card, My Motherboard has support but GFX doesnt,
 
smogsy said:
  • my card does not support rebar, new BIOS does, but this only has one BIOS so could easily get corrupted
am i mad?
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Get the ReBAR update on the GPU (it's easy and safe to do) and make sure motherboard BIOS is also on the latest BIOS so ReBAR is supported and enable it in the motherboard bios when done.

Regarding the update to a 7900xt/xtx is a waste of money and time. Wait till 50 series cards are out, there is no point updating unless as other said you go to 4090.
 
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opethdisciple said:
I imagine you have an AMD card.
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I imagine you have a 4080. Ray Tracing is not always at the top of every ones list. In most games it's not even a feature or used pretty sparingly. You most likely paid around £1100 for a card 10% faster than mine in the majority of games and i spent £660. You should always factor in what you want a card for and if it's not top end RT/Dlss you don't need Nvidia as in all tiers AMD make more sense from a price performance outlook. If the op could sell his card for around £550 and bag a deal like me he would be paying around £110 to tick all his boxes. A 20% uplift in performance with his boxes ticked might just be worth it.
 
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TheRealDeal said:
The price difference is not worth it but 30-40% is not minuscule it's literally a gen at most tiers.
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I probably should've worded that better, I meant to say that it just isn't enough of an uplift to justify the cost.

Op should just wait for next gen, I used to justify my excessive purchases similarly citing temperatures, noise and what not, but at the end of the day if I can play games just fine without looking at the FPS counter then I really don't need to upgrade, I wear headphones 90% of the time so noise isn't much of a concern either :)

Op is saying some games are struggling at 144+, other than shooters I've never really felt the need to go above 80 FPS tbh, and most FPS shooters that basically necessitate 120+ fps are already tuned to run on potatoes anyways :cry:
 
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Not worth the outlay. The XT wouldn't cost that much after selling the 3090, but the uplift is smaller again. Personally I'd drop a few settings if you wish to achieve higher FPS, plus explore a REBAR BIOS.
 
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TheRealDeal said:
I imagine you have a 4080. Ray Tracing is not always at the top of every ones list. In most games it's not even a feature or used pretty sparingly. You most likely paid around £1100 for a card 10% faster than mine in the majority of games and i spent £660. You should always factor in what you want a card for and if it's not top end RT/Dlss you don't need Nvidia as in all tiers AMD make more sense from a price performance outlook. If the op could sell his card for around £550 and bag a deal like me he would be paying around £110 to tick all his boxes. A 20% uplift in performance with his boxes ticked might just be worth it.
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Do you hear me trying to justify my purchase?

Fair enough if not everyone wants RT performance.

Frankly I do. Plus DLSS and the rest of that ecosystem is far superior to the AMD equivalent.
 
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opethdisciple said:
Do you hear me trying to justify my purchase?

Fair enough if not everyone wants RT performance.

Frankly I do. Plus DLSS and the rest of that ecosystem is far superior to the AMD equivalent.
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not sure its superior, Don't think you can say that without trying both.

DLSS might seem better than FSR3
RT might be better
however AMD inbuilt control Center & has many more usable options over NVidda bloat & 90 control panel.
lets not forget AMD is open so whilst less focused works on older cards saying you upgrading & works on linux :D

i'm open to both companies hence wanting to try AMD again
 
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