32g 4400mhz with a ryzen 5 3600 issue

Baldbloke · 23 Jan 2022 at 14:54

I'm very much out of the current loop these days when it comes to memory. Your advice is appreciated.

I have a ryzen 5 3600 cpu. Recently, I purchased 32gb (4*8) 4400 ram.
It works fine when I use 2*8 at 4400mhz. I have an issue trying to get all four sticks running at 4400Mhz.
When I install all 4 sticks and try to run them at 4400 it fails to boot then defaults the bios to 1066 (2132). Tried as many variations as I can think of regards to trying them in the A and B slots. So for the moment I've settled on all 4 sticks running at 3600. It is happily working fine. No issues.
I'd like to utilise that extra speed though. 4400 would mean a slight increase in ram speed. I'd like to use it.

The ram itself seems fine. It passes memtest 100%. I've done quite a variety of swapping , mixing slots, changing bios settings. I haven't tried manually changing settings though. Relied mainly on msi "try it" utility in bios.

I could probably do a bit more fiddling with the bios. But is it worth it? A quick google suggests that the sweet spot for my ryzen 5 3600 is 3600Mhz. Latency increase means I'd lose any benefit of
Is it worth me fiddling any more?

Memory is Viper Steel Gaming Memory by Patriot - 4400MHZ BDIE
Motherboard MSI mpg B550 gaming edge

Baldbloke · 23 Jan 2022 at 15:12

Journey said:
The IMC in the 3600 isn't going to do 4400MHz on 4 sticks.
You want to go for 3600/3800 1:1 IF with the tightest timings possible.

Thank you Journey. I had a quick google of IMC after your post. It's hardly worth the effort and possible crashes to tweak it then. I'll stick with 3600Mhz on this cpu.
I have an urge to upgrade to a 5800X cpu some time soon (if I can get one at a reasonable used price). Would the 5800x work with 4400Mhz?

Baldbloke · 23 Jan 2022 at 23:51

Thank you folks. I'll leave well enough alone for the time being. Leave it at 3600. I'd rather it was reliable than possibly crashing occasionally.

Baldbloke · 24 Jan 2022 at 07:47

Guest2 said:
Show us your Zentimings screenshot and AIDA64 cache and memory benchmark results. 4400Mhz C19 RAM should be able to easily do 3800 / 1900IF C16, maybe C14

E.g.
https://www.reddit.com/r/overclocki...ot_viper_steel_4400mhz_5600x_aorus_pro_ac_oc/
https://www.reddit.com/r/overclocki...ot_viper_steel_4400mhz_5600x_aorus_pro_ac_oc/
One on there is "Patriot Viper blackout 4000CL19 kit running at 3800CL14 with 1.48V"

I really thank everyone for their interest and advising me on this. Going from 3600 to 3800 would mean around 5% increase. Not really worth it when I could potentially be introducing reliability problems.

chroniclard said:
Bear in mind tuning timings is a time consuming ball ache.

This

Gone are the days when I would pore over specs and experiment with settings for the fun of it. And it really was fun seeing how far I could overclock. That was 10 years ago though. These days I'm happier with a reliable pc as opposed to a pc running at the edge of its limits.