3500 winchester on a8v

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Well its been some time since i got this setup and i think its about time i tried overclocking it, i have read a fair bit about overclocking similar setups to mine but i would like some pointers if possible please.

My specs are an asus a8v deluxe rev2.0, 3500 winchester, 1gb of crucial pc4000 dual channel ballistix, i think thats the main stuff, oh also i remember hearing about possible problems on the via sata controller so i finally after all these years changed over to the promise controller.

Now i would like to overclock, its funny because i built this system for overclocking with all the quality components at the time but never bothered to overclock it until now! :p

So could someone give me good settings to try as really these components should achieve decent speeds (hopefully!) without too much messing around right?

Thanks.
 
Thanks, i did do a search and have read some of your thread before i posted, its quite helpful but im still unsure, i only really want to just get a fair amount out of my cpu and ram for now, 2.4ghz or 2.5ghz would make me happy, i don't care about maxing it really, also i was wondering why the ram can do 250mhz but on auto its at 200mhz?
 
Hmm well the ram will only go as fast as the HT you set depending on multi used. So to get 250mhz out of ** ram you need the cpu/fsb at 250. Unless you use a divider on a lower multi. Lets say multi use multi x9 and set fsb/ht to 250 this will keep your cpu at roughly 2250 and put your ram to 250mhz if you use 1.1 divider ratio. Easy enough to figure out when your in bios just go to advanced/cpu config/mem config set to memclock mode manual/limit. Make sure to lower htt to 4x or 3x when overclocking near 250mhz fsb etc. So ht freq should be 800 or 600.
 
Sorry im still a bit unsure of how to get this right and whats the best way :( , so for now what settings will get the max performance out of my setup at 2.4Ghz, the cpu is at 2.2 now so i was thinking ram 240mhz at a multi of 10 would do it right? Im still somewhat confused by the ram divider and ram settings in general, all the cas and ras ect settings. :confused:
 
Do you know what bios revision you are using. Also i need more info like stepping, ram type and speed etc and all that. So go find cpu-z on google download that run it, run it 6 times and position each window on your desktop so there all next to each other make sure each one is showing something different. Save that info in a screenshot (prntscreen key) save in pain or somit upload to imageshack then i can see your specs a bit better. And then be able to help futher.

Basically tho its.

1. Set agp/pci lock to 66.6/33.3 (will protect pci/agp cards and harddrives i think as well)
2. Set HT to 4x (800 will increase to 960 due to overclock)
3. Set cpu to 240fsb/htt whatever its called thesedays. (cpu will run at 2400mhz on 10x multi)
4. leave ram it should go to 240mhz due to fsb etc. If not do what i said previous post and limit to 1.1 divider (bottom of the pick)
5. Volts my need boosting a tiny bit if unstable with the overclock. Remember the asus a8v deluxe volts for cpu isnt accurate according to bios. If bios says 1.4 its more like 1.35 so if your wanting to aim for 1.4v you need to set in bios 1.45 or 1.475 etc. You can use everest or asus pc probe to see what its kinda like but everest has a better cpu volt detection.

Also how is your cooling for your case and cpu etc. Btw even tho i have given roughly what you can try and expect its best to wait till i know ** hardware a bit more to help you. As i said in the begining of this post what bios do you have. If 1014 then ** fine as that is the best oc bios you can use.

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Snowdog pointed out u said ** ram specs, so erm im not sure what to recomend for timings so i will let you research that yourself, just search for ballistics in memory forum or ask with a new topic.

Hmm heres some benchmarking with oc results so you can work out what you want from this.

http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=1859&page=5

Tho For 240 (480 ddr) i would use i think 2.5/3/3/6 or somit like that.
 
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Thanks again for the help i do appreciate it! :)

I got cpu-z after reading your post and i noticed you can dump the info to txt so ill do that as its quicker, my bios is 1018.001 beta, temps are pretty good i believe, about 34 on idle (less with cool and quiet) and 44 on load and this is with the settings i changed earlier and they were a bit lower at stock, the case is big with plenty of air flow, im using the stock amd fan but it seems pretty good, also using arctic silver paste, the board is rev2.0 and im using the promise controller as i mentioned in first post. Ok heres the info, remember its not stock...

Code: 
Processors Information
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Processor 1 (ID = 0)
Number of cores		1
Number of threads	1 (max 1)
Name			AMD Athlon 64 3500+
Codename		Winchester
Specification		AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3500+
Package			Socket 939
CPUID			F.F.0
Extended CPUID		F.1F
Brand ID		4
Core Stepping		DH8-D0
Technology		90 nm
Core Speed		2419.9 MHz (11.0 x 220.0 MHz)
HT Link speed		880.0 MHz
Stock frequency		2200 MHz
Instructions sets	MMX (+), 3DNow! (+), SSE, SSE2, x86-64
L1 Data cache		64 KBytes, 2-way set associative, 64-byte line size
L1 Instruction cache	64 KBytes, 2-way set associative, 64-byte line size
L2 cache		512 KBytes, 16-way set associative, 64-byte line size
FID/VID Control		yes
max FID			11.0x
VID range		1.550V - 1.450V
K8 Thermal sensor	yes
K8 Revision ID		3.1
Attached device		PCI device at bus 0, device 24, function 0
Attached device		PCI device at bus 0, device 24, function 1
Attached device		PCI device at bus 0, device 24, function 2
Attached device		PCI device at bus 0, device 24, function 3

Chipset
--------------------------------------------------------------------

Northbridge		VIA K8T800 Pro rev. 00
Southbridge		VIA VT8237 rev. 00
Graphic Interface	AGP
AGP Revision		3.0
AGP Transfer Rate	8x
AGP SBA			supported, enabled
Memory Type		DDR
Memory Size		1024 MBytes
Memory Frequency	201.7 MHz (CPU/12)
CAS#			2.0
RAS# to CAS#		3
RAS# Precharge		3
Cycle Time (tRAS)	8
Bank Cycle Time (tRC)	11
DRAM Idle Timer		16
Command Rate		1T

Memory SPD
--------------------------------------------------------------------

DIMM #1

General
Memory type		DDR
Manufacturer (ID)	Micron Technology (2CFFFFFFFFFFFFFF)
Size			512 MBytes
Max bandwidth		PC4000 (250 MHz)
Part number		
Serial number		2103B396
Manufacturing date	Week 35/Year 04

Attributes
Number of banks		2
Data width		64 bits
Correction		None
Registered		no
Buffered		no
EPP			no

Timings table
Frequency (MHz)		200	250	
CAS#			2.0	2.5	
RAS# to CAS# delay	3	4	
RAS# Precharge		3	4	
TRAS			8	10	



DIMM #2

General
Memory type		DDR
Manufacturer (ID)	Micron Technology (2CFFFFFFFFFFFFFF)
Size			512 MBytes
Max bandwidth		PC4000 (250 MHz)
Part number		
Serial number		1D04421E
Manufacturing date	Week 35/Year 04

Attributes
Number of banks		2
Data width		64 bits
Correction		None
Registered		no
Buffered		no
EPP			no

Timings table
Frequency (MHz)		200	250	
CAS#			2.0	2.5	
RAS# to CAS# delay	3	4	
RAS# Precharge		3	4	
TRAS			8	10
 
Well you know ** cas and other ram timings now for 250mhz (bottom end of cpuz report).

Seems the mb is auto adjusting ** ram to stay at 200mhz i think. Duno to be honest. Seems it may help if u follow my steps in previous post and take care in the memory settings area (take it off auto etc). You should be fine and get ** ram running the way its meant to.
 
I set ram at 3:2 because when its at 1:1 it said it was 140mhz which seems low? i changed it to 5:3 (333) and it didn't start, what am i doing wrong and how do i get the most out of the ram?
 
Hmm do you have cool n quiet on? If so turn it off. As it will probably be down clocking ** cpu and maybe ram, that im not sure about. But when oc best to disable coolnquiet.
 
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Yeah its off, i changed my oc to ht 800, ram 3:2, 10.5 multi, 240fsb which gives me 2520 MHz with ht at 960 MHz and ram at 194 MHz, i wonder why the ram doesn't want to go above 200 MHz, do you think im just making a fuss over the ram and it doesn't really matter?

Its just that i don't get why its rated 250MHz yet i've never seen it over 200MHz, anyway how much improvement would more MHz out of the ram give me?

edit: also it seems stable running prime after about 10 minuets, temp is 48c.
 
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Well you could keep overclocking till the ram keeps going up when you up the fsb i supose. Just keep lowering the multi so the cpu doesnt go too far when your trying for more mhz out of the ram.

48 at load is ok just so long as u dont go past 55 (all i know is safe as i just have a venice) but its best to test for 1 hr and for 5+ hrs for a stable oc for 24/7 usage. Mem test ** ram when ocing as well.

Not sure why ** ram is having a prob when set to 2:1 divider, have you tryed setting it back to auto to see if it puts it at proper speed? Whilst ocing.

Heres a good asus a8v ocing guide http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=332591

Might help you find out some stuff.
 
The motherboard won't use the DDR500 timings of 2.5-4-4-10 automatically - you have to do it manually in the BIOS.
 
If i set the ram up right with 1:1 etc and the fsb to 250 at 10x multi and ht 800 i should get 2.5Ghz and ram should be 250Mhz right? Im not really sure of the correct settings for the ram though.
 
Yep if your CPU can handle that speed. The labels for the memory settings are:

tCL (CAS Latency): 2.5
tRTC (RAS to CAS Delay): 4
tRP (RAS Precharge): 4
tRAS (Precharge Delay): 10

There are other sub timings but having them all at auto should work fine.
 
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