360 1080i or 720p

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i was just wondering one which is better, and two which one do you all use? I am curently using 720p but my tv can support 1080i.
 
From what I can see 1080i will give you a clearer\sharper picture but its hardly noticeable compared to 720p, and 720p is faster\smoother.

Thats the impression I get from trying both of those settings on CoD2
 
dirtydog said:
If you can use either, why not try both and see which one you prefer, it might just work :p
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Thats the thing i don't really see a difference :confused:
 
720p is widely accepted as being the best for games.

1080i is interlaced, so you only get half a picture displayed every refresh, the effect can be quite weird when watching fast moving stuff such as sports and computer games.

720p is prgressive and you get a full image every refresh. great for fast moving stuff and the quality is still great too.

1080p is a differant beast alltogether. but the Tvs that support this are rare and very expensive, and as of yet, there is no home device capable of transfering a 1080p signal to a TV. a few profeshional solutions but you will need to remortgage your house to buy them.

have a read up on avforums , some really interesting stuff. people assume 1080i is better because of the higher numbers, but it really is a bit of a botch signal
 
kidloco said:
720p is widely accepted as being the best for games.

1080i is interlaced, so you only get half a picture displayed every refresh, the effect can be quite weird when watching fast moving stuff such as sports and computer games.
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I don't think it's the interlacing which is the problem is it? I mean ordinary TVs are interlaced but fast moving images like sports broadcasts look fine. 1080i is limited to 30fps due to the high bandwidth required to produce 1920x1080 at 60fps isn't it?
 
It also depends on the native res of the screen you are using, and it's scaling hardware too. Some TVs may support 1080i, but look naff due to bad downscaling, others may look better doing 1080i than they do 720p. Others will look naff with both, like the work monitors do :p

Play with both, take your pick :)
 
is it possible for the vga cable to do 1080i? as i have a 22" diamond plus 230sb and it can do 1920x1440 max and i'd have thought a resolution at around 1080i would have been available.
 
sja360 said:
is it possible for the vga cable to do 1080i? as i have a 22" diamond plus 230sb and it can do 1920x1440 max and i'd have thought a resolution at around 1080i would have been available.
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Sadly not. You need the component cable for that.

Although I can't see how difficult it would be for Microsoft to add extra resolutions in the future with Live updates.

Its not as if the hardware can't do it.

All games are rendered at 720p and are then scaled up or down depending on the output resolution selected by the user. If the hardware can scale 720p>1080i via component then I can't see when it can't do so via the VGA cable.

Unless VGA has a resolution limit due to bandwidth, not too sure tbh.
 
NokkonWud said:
All games on the Xbox360 are output at 720p.
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No they're not. Each game has it's 'native' resolution, and the box scales it to your output resolution. So a 720p game will be scaled to 1080 if it's capable, and a 1080 game (of which there are none at the moment) will be downscaled to 720 if it's not capable.
 
Beepcake said:
No they're not. Each game has it's 'native' resolution, and the box scales it to your output resolution. So a 720p game will be scaled to 1080 if it's capable, and a 1080 game (of which there are none at the moment) will be downscaled to 720 if it's not capable.
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Correct me if im wrong but isnt it the TV that does the scaling?
 
Beepcake said:
No they're not. Each game has it's 'native' resolution, and the box scales it to your output resolution. So a 720p game will be scaled to 1080 if it's capable, and a 1080 game (of which there are none at the moment) will be downscaled to 720 if it's not capable.
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All games output at 720p, like I said. It's either scaled up or down (1080i or 480p) from there. But all games actually have it's original output at 720p on the Xbox360.
 
I think the confusion arises between internal and external resolutions. Every game (except PGR3 ;)) is rendered internally at 720p and then scaled by the 360 to output at the resolution you choose. As I understand it.
 
NokkonWud said:
All games output at 720p, like I said. It's either scaled up or down (1080i or 480p) from there. But all games actually have it's original output at 720p on the Xbox360.
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Sorry, but that's just wrong. Games have to support 720p output minimum, and if the TV is outputting higher/lower than the game can, the 360 scales it up or down appropriately.. I have my box set to 1080 and, according to the TV, that's what that are outputting at.

If everything was 720, why on earth would they have a 1080 option? :)

Currently all the games are rendered internally as either 480 or 720, but there is scope in the future for 'native' 1080 games.
 
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dirtydog said:
Except PGR3 which is rendered internally at 1024x600.

Actually no game is rendered internally at 480 AFAIK.
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Sorry, it was Gotham I was thinking of, I knew it wasn't true 720 but I was too lazy to look it up ;)
 
dirtydog said:
I don't think it's the interlacing which is the problem is it? I mean ordinary TVs are interlaced but fast moving images like sports broadcasts look fine. 1080i is limited to 30fps due to the high bandwidth required to produce 1920x1080 at 60fps isn't it?
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Good Lord NOOOOOOO!
Don't let him get into FPS again, where's the Buy DD a 360 thread gone?

Incidentally I use 720p - no particular reason as I did not see any performance disparity between 720p and 1080i.
 
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