3600 cl14 bargain

Masteri3laster · 24 Sep 2019 at 12:34

Just posting to let anyone interested know that the patriot viper steel series ram (4400 cl19) is amazing value. I paid £130 for 2 x 8gb. I presumed it to be a quality set as it’s rated at 4400mhz with good timings. Running error free at 3600 14-14-14 with all timings suggested by the calculator. I dropped the voltage from the suggested 1.45 to 1.40 and still rock solid. I did not want to pay the increasingly ridiculous prices for gskill.

Masteri3laster · 24 Sep 2019 at 20:53

Run the memtest that was with the calculator for a few hours. No errors. Played a couple games. Going to bench and try and get 3733 or 3600 at 12s ! I hope

Masteri3laster · 25 Sep 2019 at 08:52

Yeah I will do more tests when I get home Friday. Only had a couple hours to build it and install windows. I left it running for about 5 hours while I went to bed. What other tests can I do? Or is memtest the go to program?

Masteri3laster · 25 Sep 2019 at 13:21

MaXxBoulton said:
If it passes memtest it's all good

Thanks. First time I’ve oc’d ram other than xmp so I appreciate the advice.

Masteri3laster · 29 Sep 2019 at 12:35

I was getting errors in memtest86 at 3600 cl14. Just one but one too many. Currently at 3733 cl16 / If at 1866 @ 1.35v stable no errors. Will have another play around next weekend. Want to get 3733 cl14 if possible. Don’t think my crappy board/cpu can do any better. (X570m pro 4 and 3600)

Masteri3laster · 29 Sep 2019 at 21:29

Threepwood said:
The fun really began with step down mode... from there we go as low as this; (which is 10 mins of prime 95 stable, no errors, 1.53v)
Dont be afriad of a little more voltage mate! 10% more is 1.6v and B-die likes it.

Good job mate.
Did you enable step down mode to lower timings further? I’m a complete novice but learned so much in the 8 hours I spent trying to get 14s with no errors. I feel I’m close as I get a single error.

Masteri3laster · 29 Sep 2019 at 21:31

Doogles said:
Meanwhile mine is terrible and can't even do 3400mhz CL16 stable, might be the BIOS being funny though as had XMP running with manual timings/frequency. Hate spending time testing overclocks though which is why I haven't really bothered.

Mine would not boot at all with xmp. Had to input timings from the calculator to post above 2133. And it’s on my boards qvl!

Masteri3laster · 30 Sep 2019 at 12:02

Got mine to post at 3733/1866 if cl 14 @ 1.49v unstable so I will up the juice a little. Have to manually enter VDDg/vddp as no post on auto. That is on any timings or speed. Strange issue with bios I think as I cannot enter any value below 1v on either.

Masteri3laster · 30 Sep 2019 at 17:23

Threepwood said:
NicE! Have you stablised yet?

Did not have time last night but it looks like more volts will do the trick. Hoping for a new bios update soon.

Masteri3laster · 2 Oct 2019 at 17:22

Jacky60 said:
Thanks very much for the OP I just bought 32GB, it's brilliant stuff. £260 for 32GB 4000mhz DDR4, I'm running mine at 3000, 12/12/12/32 will be using it at 4000mhz or close in new build!

No probs. Wish I had got the 4000 instead as it seems like the same stuff!

Masteri3laster · 4 Oct 2019 at 11:24

I don’t think the higher latency higher frequency patriot kits are worse than the 8 pack. The cl19 is @ 4400 1.45v. They scale down to 3600 c14 comfortably, albeit with a little Voltage tweaking. With a decent board/cpu 3800 c14 is doable and for us Ryzen users, that’s a holy grail figure with an IF @ 1900.

Masteri3laster · 5 Oct 2019 at 00:12

Sc00p007 said:
I'm looking to upgrade my 3200cl16.
Any advice between 8pack 3200cl14, patriot viper 4000 or viper 4400?

I have no experience with the 8 pack but people have had good results with both. The patriot will do 3200 cl12 according to one user, and if your a Ryzen user 3600/3733/3800 cl14/16 depending on your board/cpu. I can only get 3733 cl16 or 3600 cl14.

Masteri3laster · 5 Oct 2019 at 00:25

Dtshaw said:
Well, it wouldn't boot with my IF at 1900 with this memory.. weirdly enough but 1866 is completely stable with the xmp 2 profile at 3866 memory. I wonder why with my old kit are stock settings 1900 was completely fine but yea. I'll have to see what timings i can get now.

I have only tried this ram, I have some old 3000 Corsair I could try but the stock timings are bad and tbh I’m happy with these. I had no luck with the xmp profiles and went full manual timings/voltage. Threepwood has had his running 3800/1900 if cl14, so he may be able to give some advice.

Masteri3laster · 9 Oct 2019 at 08:41

Dtshaw said:
@Masteri3laster

Hey mate,

I know you have a 3600 and your is at ram at 3737mhz speed atm. If you had any spare time could you run Aida64 Mem/cache test?. I get https://imgur.com/dQ5prDU with the same ram MHZ/CPU

Sorry for the late reply been working a lot. I will test again and post results tonight.

Masteri3laster · 9 Oct 2019 at 12:31

Space Monkey said:
That's very good to know, thanks. What board and CPU are you using?

I can only get 3600 cl14 with high v’s(1.51) stable, but use 3733 cl16 @ 1.4. I’m using ASRock X570m pro4 / 3600. Crappy board I think.

Masteri3laster · 9 Oct 2019 at 19:30

Besty said:
Could do with someone taking one of the team with the lower latency kits and seeing if they are A2.

If we can get a confirmed A2 set of 16GB I will buy a couple of kits to test.

Nobody is setting DDR4 world records with B-Die anymore its all switching to binned A2 kits at C14.

are 16gb kits available in a die atm? Even if they were, they would most definitely command a premium over b die. As for world records, I think most people are just looking for high performance ram at a reasonable price.

Masteri3laster · 9 Oct 2019 at 20:07

Dtshaw said:
@Masteri3laster

Hey mate,

I know you have a 3600 and your is at ram at 3737mhz speed atm. If you had any spare time could you run Aida64 Mem/cache test?. I get https://imgur.com/dQ5prDU with the same ram MHZ/CPU

Here you go pal
https://imgur.com/0R3VhOy

Masteri3laster · 9 Oct 2019 at 23:13

Dtshaw said:
Thanks mate!. Yeah, we're around the same it seems. i am 16-16-16-30 (3733mhz) at 1.42 volts at the moment. I did try to push for CL15/14 but.. don't really wanna life push above 1.45 on the memory.

I can post with 3733/1866IF @ cl14, but needs 1.5v and other v’s ramped up. Still unstable with that. I may try gear down mode enabled as others have suggested this helps with stability. I’d love to get the latency to be sub 65ns, but tbh I’m perfectly happy with performance and will probably wait for a bios update.