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3600X > 5600X or 5700X or 5800X

VaderDSL

VaderDSL

VaderDSL

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With the 5600X below £200, and me probably not likely to upgrade to AM5/AM6 in the next few years. Just curious if the 5600X, or 5700X, 5800X is worth a buy? The 5700/5800 are around £100 more though.

3600X on B450 Tomahawk Max, 16Gb DDR4 3600/cl16, 5700XT, Noctua U14S, Meshify C, 27" Monitor @ 1440p.

Benchmarks all point to very little uplift in most games @1440p, but I don't tend to play any of the games benchmarked. Most of the games I play are strategy e.g. Civ6, GalCiv, Anno1800, Distant Worlds, Stellaris, Factorio, XCom and so on with some Arma3 (self hosted server + couple of friends).

So whilst I'm not in the upgrade for massive FPS gains, if turn times/simulation speeds etc. will be improved I'm thinking it might be worth it.

Question is, with most/all of these games being pretty much single threaded, I assume a 5600X would be the logical choice? I don't use the computer for any production tasks, so core count isn't something I need or see me needing.
 
5600X would be the best bet for immediate performance gain at little cost. If you're interested in prolonging the life of your existing system I'd slap a 5900X in to be honest.
 
It depends on how long you expect to keep your motherboard if a few years then the 5600x. If you think it will be much longer then 5800x is what I would go for as the consoles have 8 cores.
 
The obvious answer given your use would be the 5800X3D but it does cost more. I also think it will last longer too. Some of those games would get a very nice increase, but if price is an issue I'd go 5800X.
 
I went from a 3600XT to a 5700X.

X3D was not available and a little pricey and the 5800x had a tiny performance improvement over the 5700x but consumes more power and runs hotter. I'm set for a few years on my 570 platform.
 
i defo agree with the 5700x i just upgraded to that recently from the 5600x i just love how smoother it is with 8 cores. runs great temps to.
and can be overclocked/pbo to a 5800x practically at ease
 
Im in the same boat. Upgrading my Ryzen 2700 soon on a x470 motherboard. I think the 5700x is the sweet spot. 65W and easier to keep cool, for nearly the same performance as the 5800x
 
Similar position as I'm considering upgrading my living room gaming PC from 3700X to the 5600X or 5700X.

As it's a pure gaming machine with no other role I think the 5600X wins given the nice pricing, and no point waiting for the obviously incoming next gen as it would need a new platform.

The 3700X will replace the 2600 in my server/VM rig.
 
Generally when I upgrade CPUs these days I attempt to get more cores in addition to better IPC. I did 3570k > 1600 > 2700x > 5900x (4 > 6 > 8 > 12 cores)

Having said that it's more a non-sensical justification for the upgrade rather that actually needing that many cores. 5600x is a really good gaming CPU I'd just have felt annoyed dropping from 8 cores to 6 even if the actual performance even in multithreaded apps was slightly better. Probably the only games that have really benefitted from the 12 cores are Ultimate Epic Battle Simulator and Assassins Creed Unity (it was a real surprise how well threaded that game is given the absolute panning it got when launched for performance issues).
 
Cheers all, still undecided. Just a question, the 5800X is only £10 more than the 5700X, what reason would anyone buy the 5700X? Is the 5700X a better binned processor? or are they poorer binned 5800X? Granted it runs a bit cooler from what I've read, but you can always run the 5800X in ECO mode?

Surely there's no reason to go 5700X? unless there is some benefit to how the cores are arranged etc.?
 
VaderDSL said:
Cheers all, still undecided. Just a question, the 5800X is only £10 more than the 5700X, what reason would anyone buy the 5700X? Is the 5700X a better binned processor? or are they poorer binned 5800X? Granted it runs a bit cooler from what I've read, but you can always run the 5800X in ECO mode?

Surely there's no reason to go 5700X? unless there is some benefit to how the cores are arranged etc.?
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I made the choice and got a 5800x even though fearing it would be a heatmonster. Reality for me has been that it only happens during all core workloads/stress testing and there are ways around that to without sacrificing performance or going water. I've put a power limit on mine and with the cryorig r1 ultimate cooler and curve optimizer i'm actually able to gain higher benchmark scores over stock and running cooler. When gaming I never break 60-65 degrees and thats in a poorly ventilated mAtx case.
 
The 5800x is a heat monster in Cinebench but ok for gaming. Can reach 82C at stock in Cinebench with a very decent air cooler, gaming temps are a lot better though.

For comparison I get temps of 57C in Cinebench with my 5700x and budget air cooler and gaming temps up to 64c which is similar to the 5800x.
 
Well I took the gamble of leaving it to see how low prices dropped. Looks like I missed the window. They've all gone back up in price, quite a lot in some cases.

I guess I’ll just wait for 7000 release to see what the 5000s are going for on members market.
 
My guess would be that the stock supported by price cuts from AMD has dried up, maybe need to wait until Zen 4 for the next round.
 
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