3800x to 5700x?

syks · 28 Apr 2023 at 20:47

Just wondering if this upgrade would be worth it? i have a 3060ti at the moment and the msi x470 gaming plus max mb which im sure will take the 5 series if i update the bios.

Thanks

Tetras · 28 Apr 2023 at 20:53

Which games do you play?

What is your fps target @ 1440p?

syks · 28 Apr 2023 at 20:59

Tetras said:
Which games do you play?

What is your fps target @ 1440p?

Yep, play at 1440p and have 165hrz monitor, mostly fps games like battlefield 5/2042...will also be interested in playing fps games that may be released this year, hogwarts, cyberpunk 2077, modern warfare 2 etc

Would also like the cpu i get to be ok with a better gpu should i upgrade it in the future, like a 4070 or similar

Thanks

Vish Petrol · 28 Apr 2023 at 21:22

syks said:
Yep, play at 1440p and have 165hrz monitor, mostly fps games like battlefield 5/2042...will also be interested in playing fps games that may be released this year, hogwarts, cyberpunk 2077, modern warfare 2 etc

Would also like the cpu i get to be ok with a better gpu should i upgrade it in the future, like a 4070 or similar

Thanks

Gpu first at that res.

syks · 28 Apr 2023 at 23:50

Vish Petrol said:
Gpu first at that res.

Thats the thing, the gpu is doing fine, its just 99% of the games i play the gpu usage is hardly in the 90% zone, it drops into the 70s and lower on some games while the cpu usage is up in the 70% usage sometimes, i havent checked to see if a single core is maxed but im sure the cpu is defo holding me back.

The only game i own that has had the gpu usage constantly in the 90s is halo, everything else...nope, in cyberpunk gpu usage drops to 50% sometimes.

Would save a little and get the 5800x3d but not sure if it would work in my motherboard

Thanks

Vish Petrol · 29 Apr 2023 at 00:15

5800x3d will be fine. jump to the 5700x if you want but youll have to jump to the 5800x3d at somepoint unless you want to move platforms.

syks · 29 Apr 2023 at 00:53

Mmmmm yes, im not planning on moving platform for quite some time yet, maybe it would be more sensible to just save and drop in a 5800x3d, im sure i will need to do a bios update and ive never attempted one before, hopefully it will be easy

Thanks

arc@css · 29 Apr 2023 at 01:18

Yeah, I'd be more inclined to drop in the 5800X3D. Should make a big difference.

syks · 29 Apr 2023 at 18:29

Done the bios update, it was easy and all seemed to go well, now just have to save for the 5800x3d

Thanks for all the suggestions and replies

Gray2233 · 29 Apr 2023 at 18:31

syks said:
Done the bios update, it was easy and all seemed to go well, now just have to save for the 5800x3d

Thanks for all the suggestions and replies

Keep an eye on the members market and you might snag a deal on one.

syks · 29 Apr 2023 at 18:33

Gray2233 said:
Keep an eye on the members market and you might snag a deal on one.

Yep, been looking lol

Xelene · 2 May 2023 at 13:03

syks said:
Yep, play at 1440p and have 165hrz monitor, mostly fps games like battlefield 5/2042...will also be interested in playing fps games that may be released this year, hogwarts, cyberpunk 2077, modern warfare 2 etc

Would also like the cpu i get to be ok with a better gpu should i upgrade it in the future, like a 4070 or similar

Thanks

At 1440p you’ll be GPU bound, CPU upgrade will help with 1% lows.

syks · 2 May 2023 at 17:12

Xelene said:
At 1440p you’ll be GPU bound, CPU upgrade will help with 1% lows.

But like i said, my gpu is not hitting in the 90% usage range in any games constantly except halo, some games it drops down to the 70% usage, and others even more, halo is the only game that has my gpu at 99% usage almost all the time.

Could that be down to my motherboard? or ram? im not sure, im using 3200mhz 16gb ram and a msi gaming plus max x470 motherboard, i just know my gpu should be showing more usage in games

Xelene · 2 May 2023 at 23:53

syks said:
But like i said, my gpu is not hitting in the 90% usage range in any games constantly except halo, some games it drops down to the 70% usage, and others even more, halo is the only game that has my gpu at 99% usage almost all the time.

Could that be down to my motherboard? or ram? im not sure, im using 3200mhz 16gb ram and a msi gaming plus max x470 motherboard, i just know my gpu should be showing more usage in games

There's something wrong with your setup then, I did a quick benchmark on Cyberpunk which you mentioned you had a problem with. I have a 3900X that is not much stronger than your CPU at gaming with a much stronger GPU (7900XT) and absolutely saturated the GPU at 1440p. This was not at Ultra settings.

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Do you have 2 RAM sticks, are they in the correct slots? What does GPU-Z say about how your PCIE lanes are connected?

syks · 3 May 2023 at 00:38

Xelene said:
There's something wrong with your setup then, I did a quick benchmark on Cyberpunk which you mentioned you had a problem with. I have a 3900X that is not much stronger than your CPU at gaming with a much stronger GPU (7900XT) and absolutely saturated the GPU at 1440p. This was not at Ultra settings.

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Do you have 2 RAM sticks, are they in the correct slots? What does GPU-Z say about how your PCIE lanes are connected?

Tried the cyberpunk benchmark at max settings but this time with NO dlss and was getting MUCH higher gpu usage, had a game on battlefield 2042 but turned dlss off and again much much better with the usage in the 90% range much more.

Think having dlss on was showing the lower usage for some reason even though i get better fps when its on lol anyhow it all seems ok now

I do have 2 ram sticks and yes they are in the right slots, also have xmp turned on to get the full out of them

Thanks for your replies and suggestions

Zaguer · 15 May 2023 at 14:17

Gray2233 said:
Keep an eye on the members market and you might snag a deal on one.

Sorry for the offtopic but, what is the members market?

Gray2233 · 15 May 2023 at 15:11

Zaguer said:
Sorry for the offtopic but, what is the members market?

It's a member specific area on the forum were you can buy and sell your hardware/software etc.

You need to have over 1000 posts and to have been a member for a set period of time to gain access.

Zaguer · 15 May 2023 at 15:21

Gray2233 said:
It's a member specific area on the forum were you can buy and sell your hardware/software etc.

You need to have over 1000 posts and to have been a member for a set period of time to gain access.

Thanks, 1000 post seems a bit far :eek:

mickyflinn · 15 May 2023 at 15:38

Zaguer said:
Thanks, 1000 post seems a bit far

92 days if you post 10 per day not that far off.

Skilid · 15 May 2023 at 16:01

syks said:
Tried the cyberpunk benchmark at max settings but this time with NO dlss and was getting MUCH higher gpu usage, had a game on battlefield 2042 but turned dlss off and again much much better with the usage in the 90% range much more.

Think having dlss on was showing the lower usage for some reason even though i get better fps when its on lol anyhow it all seems ok now

I do have 2 ram sticks and yes they are in the right slots, also have xmp turned on to get the full out of them

Thanks for your replies and suggestions

DLSS renders your game at a lower resolution. The lower the resolution the more taxing it is on your CPU. By removing DLSS you're effectively increasing the render resolution (not ouput resolution). This is causing your GPU to work harder. If you don't gain any meaningful increase in FPS with DLSS enabled, you're best leaving it disabled.

You likely don't need a CPU upgrade at the moment. Yes, some of your games are CPU demanding, but at 1440p you'd get much more of a result from a better GPU. Some games will never hit 100% GPU utilisation due to software/engine restrictions and overheads. Online multiplayer shooters are renowned for this. So long as you're 90-100% then you'd still benefit from a GPU upgrade on those titles.