3930K H2O poor temps

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Hi,

My 3930K is currently being cooled in a HAF-X using a 240mm radiator at the top, a bay reservoir, with a pump underneath that. From the pump the tube then goes to a 120mm radiator then to the CPU.

My problem is my temperatures seem rather poor, my room temp is usually around 23 degrees due to the mega hot GTX580s, and when clocked to 4.5Ghz using 1.32v, i am hitting 82 degrees on IBT or Prime

Is the cooling i have not adequate, would i be better served with a Corsair 800D and a 360 + 240 rad?

I thought what i have would be enough but its quite a hot chip

Thanks
 
I would try out applying new TIC. There is more than enough radiator in that loop for just a CPU. It could be that there isn't enough contact between CPU and block or the layer of TIC is way, way to thick.

What Block are you using?

Depending on the block, like some EK blocks, if you open them up to replace the mount, you can put some parts back in the block at 90 degree angle to how they should be having significantly detrimental effect on temps (for EK, if you put the copper/nickel part in at 90 degree's for example).

What fans do you have on the radiator?

What radiators are they?

Fans can make a huge difference, gentle typhoons or High performance SP's from corsair can drop temps by LOADS.

As much as i love the Corsair800D, getting a 360 + 240 rad is overkill.

Do you know how warm your water temperature is?
 
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I have a H100i and get better temps. 20 mins of Prime and I am about 75degC at 4.78GHz

The HAF-X is not known for it's airflow. I suggest you get a better case and another rad
 
I think the temperature is too high for just lack of case airflow, also prime wont strain your GPU, so your temps are too high considering. 360mm of radiators is plenty for your OC. If your water is warmish, you are getting a good transfer from cpu to the loop and more than likely are struggling to cool the radiators due to fans, if not i would say the problem is between the block and the motherboard.
 
Hi Guys

Thanks for the replies

Fans are Scythe Gentle Typhoon 1850s (2 mounted above radiator sucking heat out)
CPU Block is a Supreme HF 240 which was included in the EK HF240 starter kit
120 rad is a XSPC RS120, which is at the back of the case, Gentle Typhoon 1850 blowing air through it out the back
Standard HAF-X 400mm fan on the front sucking in
Case houses 2 x GTX580s which get insanely hot as you all know!

As i have an EK block i'm interested in what you said about it, could you elaborate on that please?

I'm prepared to change the waterblock if needs be

Many thanks!
 
Your loop is made from quality stuff, its absolutely fine and should be cooling way better than a h100i.

I can only think that there is either little transfer from the CPU to the block or from the block to the radiator.

clean the thermal compound completely and and re-apply it either with the blob/line method or if your going to spread it, do it VERY thinly. If this is done properly, you can rule out its the transfer from your CPU to your block.

As for the block to water heat transfer, it can be to do with if the water block was screwed together wrong. I cant find the specific manual for your block but i have the supremacy one (which i own) and can use it an example.

http://www.ekwb.com/shop/EK-IM/EK-IM-3830046990563.pdf

If you ever opened up the block because you needed to change the socket mount plate or the Jet plate, you may have put it together wrong by perhaps screwing in the copper block so the copper fins are in the wrong direction.

From the link, go to step 3.1. to see what i mean. I know you have a different block but the concept is the same. You need to the copper fins to go horizontally if the Jet plate slit goes vertically. This is to ensure that water actually circulates the block. Also if your block might need specific Jet plate for your socket make sure you have the right one (it should have come with a variety of them if it does, if the supreme block doesn't come with extra Jet plates, then don't worry).

Lastly, i suggest you do a full rinse of your your system, you might have something blocking your loop.

Your waterblock is good enough, EK have replaced it with other ones but the difference you will see is literately a few degree's. I use the same 240mm radiator in my CPU + motherboard loop, and though i have a FX8350, i can tell you they run pretty hot at just shy of 5ghz. If i can keep that under 55 degree's (which is probably nearer to 70 realistically since AMD sensors are off), you should have no problem keeping your CPU down.

I also run a GTX 580 OC'd, but they don't come into the equation since they are not in your loop and run idle during prime95, so its definitely not the 580's that are keeping your temps high.

Getting another set of radiators wont fix the problem, it will just make it less noticeable, since what you have now is more than enough.

So this is what i suggest you do:

1. Clean your loop in case of blockages, Though you have a high flow block, your pump is the EK 2.2 and isnt the strongest. It usually is more than enough for just a CPU block, but if you have something gunking up the system you will see a performance drop.
2. Clean dust from Rad's
3. Check if your EK block is correctly set up ( copper fins perpendicular to the Jet plate slit)
4. CLEAN, then re-apply thermal compound but dont make it too thick (Gelid Extreme which a lot of EK blocks come with is electronically non conductive and is great)

After all this check your if your water in your loop is warm, and if you have not fixed the issue, you will at least be able to tell roughly where the problem is with this.

You have some of the best fans and decent radiators, no matter what your case is, air flow is not your issue. The GTX580's aren't your issue either because they shouldn't be producing any heat when your priming.

Changing stuff in your loop that doesn't need changing is not only expensive but inefficient, you have plenty of radiator to cool your clock, so the problem is actually before the rads, adding more will help a tiny bit but not enough to make it worth it or comforting. Same with the pump, it may be only a little pump, but as long as it has enough flow to keep the water temperature uniform, a better pump is only going to make more noise and no performance gain. If the pump isn't enough, its because something is blocking your system and once that is gone, your pump will be as good as any other considering your high flow loop.
 
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