3950x build advice please

mattj81uk

mattj81uk

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Hi, looking to build a new 3950x PC, I have added some parts to the basket, which is the kind of system I would like to build, not kept up with current PC tech, could anyone advise or help with suggestions on these parts please...are they all suitable to go together, maybe there any better choices, I'm not sure?
Going to use my current GPU and wait for 3080ti


My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £2,677.09 (includes shipping: £13.20)​
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Welcome aboard.

What's the use for PC?
If only gaming, there's lots of no use extra in there:
  • More than 32GB of memory is needed only in very heavy/special uses.
  • CPU will be outdated far before games benefit from 16 cores...
    Unless you're intending to play two games at the same time.
  • Very expensive board won't make CPU any faster or longer aged.
  • Corsair's fashion cooler has horrific bang per buck.
  • Off the charts oversized PSU, which isn't of the highest efficiency. (+at that price level warranty length should be absolute top notch)
  • For the price little space for modern games.
 
Hi, thank you for the replies, I would like to use it for gaming, also I do some CAD work, photoshop, and Ableton for music production.

Is that CPU and memory overkill for my needs? what would you guys build for about 3k, excluding GPU? ...I could maybe save some money here, as I'd also like to get a VR set and new monitor soon

What about an Intel Core i9 10900X and 32GB memory? I like the case, not a massive fan of RGB, I'd hopefully just like to set it all to one colour and leave it.
 
12 core is already lots, unless you do constantly lots heavily multithreaded.
And anyway you can later upgrade to that 16 cores with improved architecture.

AMD actually lowers prices older CPUs and in couple years 16 core Zen3 could be reasonably priced.
For example 2018's 8 core Zen+ dropped to £200 later in last fall.
So old model 16 core should drop nearer latest model 12 core prices.

While Intel is stuck at max 10 cores and with 250W power draw when fully loaded.
And actually next year's CPUs will drop back to 8 cores.
Because old re-re-re-rebranded 14nm+++++++ node just couldn't fit more of Intel's first architecturally new cores since 2015.
Clocks probably also drop down to prevent core meltdown.
Adding transistors into core simply doesn't come without power draw penalty.
(which has been usually compensated by more advanced manufacturing node)


In gaming 32GB is heavy overkill for majority of games.
Only few games can benefit from more than 16GB and around fair 20GB would be optimal for most gamers for quite some time.
32GB is also good for photoshopping, unless you're working with huge panoramas/high number of layers in complex editing.
And typical music editing simply doesn't need that much memory, because even uncompressed audio just isn't big on space usage by modern standards.


Again for bigger budget you definitely want 2TB SSD drive.
Bigger games are 100GB or even over that.
Modern Warfare's requirtement is 175GB.
In most existing games there even isn't much any difference in laoding times between NVMe and SATA SSDs.
Hence most important thing is that space on SSD instead of old spinning rust and also PCIe v3 drives have plenty of unused potential.
PCIe v4 comes if you have enough money to raise cattle by feeding them banknotes.


And multi-GPU is dead on water and has been that way for years, so already 750W is plenty.
Especially with AMD CPUs with pretty honest TDP.
And gaming doesn't fully hammer high core counts CPUs.
Hence very few gaming PCs reach over 350W power draw.
 
Thank you very much EsaT for taking the time to reply, very well explained and lots of things to think about, so may go 12 core AMD, 32GB memory, bigger SSD, and a nice PSU around 750/800W range, it's going to be so much better than what I currently have, not built a new PC for about 10 years, still running Core 2 quad 3.2GHz with 8GB
 
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