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3970x up for comparison.

ALXAndy

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MjFrosty said:
You should post some benchmark results with your rig. You'd have some comparative material by now if you had. There you are, some constructive criticism.

I'm tired so that's all you're getting
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Taken from the other thread, so I'm not accused of trolling again :rolleyes:

Not sure why I'm supposed to care that you're tired, but any way, enough digressing.

To back up my point about what I claimed in the other thread I will happily run benchmarks on my system. So first up here is Anand's Cinebench R15 taken with conservative clocks on all CPUs.



And my 3970x overclocked to 4.7ghz.



My CPU will do 4.8ghz on multi alone. However, I bought it during the heat wave, so it was pretty close to raggin' it. I know it hits 1285 when oced to 4.8.

Before I bench anything else I want to point out that I can not bench vs their game benchmarks because they are running 770s, I'm running Titan blacks and most games are GPU dependent.

Guru3D 3dmfs.



My Firestrike. CPU 4.7ghz, GPUs 1170mhz.



http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/3905697?

Physics score = 16662. I await to see what the 5820k/5930k can do. Hard to find any data right now, but help me out here... Surely some one has a Haswell E hex already running? 8 Pack's results.



So 8pack said that he's going to use real world clocks. Please post your results on chips that clock well.

3Dmark 11.

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/8658990



Seems to be a bit lower than 8packs. Not sure why. If there are any other benchmarks you would like me to run then just LMK.
 
There seems to be a lot of variance will all the Haswell-E results online at the moment with Cinebench, I've seen the 5960 anywhere from 1200-1500 at stock.
 
Martini1991 said:
There seems to be a lot of variance will all the Haswell-E results online at the moment with Cinebench, I've seen the 5960 anywhere from 1200-1500 at stock.
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Yeah it's strange. It's even more strange that Intel don't seem to have given out any samples of the 5820k for review. There are a couple of reviews, but they're focussed on the 5960. This is a shame, as IMO the only product to truly celebrate here is the 5820k and that's for what it costs, rather than what it can do.

As I said in the other thread though I truly don't feel the 5820k (apart from its price) and the 5930k are anything new at all. They're just a refresh. The only true new product is the 5960x.

That's why I put this thread here. Hopefully we can get a few 58/59 owners to give us some results.

Andy7 said:
Are you trying to wave your willy with this thread?

Seems a bit sad to me but each to their own :p
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Use your brain.

This is the thread that stops people rushing out to buy Haswell E chips that are using X79. For some it could be a downgrade (silicon lottery dependent of course).

Right now all of the reviewers have ES chips that like the Devil's Canyon and Haswell review samples all clock higher than their retail counterparts. This thread is a bit of real.

Hardly waving my willy with a CPU that was released two years ago on a technology that was released three years ago is it? I paid £350 for my chip.
 
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I'd actually tend to agree with Andy. The 5820k and 5930k are largely unimpressive and fairly close to well clocking 3930k/3960x/3970x/4930k/4960x CPUs. From what I have seen, the latter when clocked to 4.8/5GHz plus make the Haswell-E hex cores look like a downgrade.

Remains to be seen what can be achieved with silly RAM speeds but something tells me what we will see isn't a stellar increase in performance. 8-pack's results were apparently with all CPUs at 4GHz. What that does is gimping the Ivy-E hex-core which ought to be able to achieve a higher average OC than 4GHz. Not quite sure what the average OC of the 5820k, 5930k and 5960x would be at this point as we haven't seen enough real world results. Initial reports don't seem that encouraging though, making 4.2-4.4GHz seem like the "norm".

So if you have a 4.8GHz+ clocking SB-E or Ivy-E, it would be an utterly pointless shift up to a Haswell-E hex core. If you bag a decent clocking 5960x (that can do 4.5GHz+), then well done for your win on the silicon lottery and you will notice a large increase in bench scores and applications that support the extra cores. If all you do is gaming, all the above is pointless. Stick to your Haswell or DC chips (i5 or i7 depending on what games you play and how many GPUs you have).
 
This isn't exactly much we don't already know really is it?

A highly overclocked previous gen beating a poor clocker from new gen, that's what you get with such small improvements from year to year. Should be comparing clock for clock.

As for people upgrading from older x79 setups and the likes; is worth it in terms of money per performance? Probably not! If you want the very best money can buy for your extreme benching then well that's a different story isn't it?
 
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Qitarah said:
This isn't exactly much we don't already know really is it?

A highly overclocked previous gen beating a poor clocker from new gen, that's what you get with such small improvements from year to year. Should be comparing clock for clock.

As for people upgrading from older x79 setups and the likes; is worth it in terms of money per performance? Probably not! If you want the very best money can buy for your extreme benching then well that's a different story isn't it?
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A 5960X may be yes, but I doubt the 5820k and 5930k will be that relevant for the hardcore benchers. Clock for clock we know the story. Haswell-E has better IPC than Ivy-E and SB-E so of course it will perform better. If the average overclock of Haswell-E is miles lower than the former two though, that IPC difference becomes less meaningful.

I'd personally be pretty peeved if I bought a Haswell-E only to find out it craps out at 4-4.2 GHz due to immense heat. Maybe we'll get some guaranteed clockers next year similar to the DC chips.
 
Qitarah said:
This isn't exactly much we don't already know really is it?

A highly overclocked previous gen beating a poor clocker from new gen, that's what you get with such small improvements from year to year. Should be comparing clock for clock.

As for people upgrading from older x79 setups and the likes; is worth it in terms of money per performance? Probably not! If you want the very best money can buy for your extreme benching then well that's a different story isn't it?
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8 Pack has done clock for clock and it left me hugely unimpressed.

I agree with Alex. The only thing new here is the 5960x. All of the others are just die shrunk examples (and all of the pluses and minuses that come with that) of what we already have.

It's a sad state of affairs when you read a review about these products and the reviewers are so caught up in excitement that honest and reality take a walk.

I've tried to be as positive as I can but the only things I see here are an 8 core that costs £750 and a cheap hex core with expensive ram.

I'd love the excuse to upgrade to a 5930k but the excuse just ain't there. It would be stepping sideways.
 
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ALXAndy said:
Seems to be a bit lower than 8packs. Not sure why. If there are any other benchmarks you would like me to run then just LMK.
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Physics score you mean?

Could be down to 8 Pack having a more efficient chip and more than likely tuned RAM as he is god at RAM tuning.
 
Rossi~ said:
Physics score you mean?

Could be down to 8 Pack having a more efficient chip and more than likely tuned RAM as he is god at RAM tuning.
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Or we could be running different versions which is what I suspect to be the case.

I would expect updates to all benchmarks soon now that we have an Intel 8 core.
 
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