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Iraklis F.C. said:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=98865

pure ownage i say , these chips are killers and i cant wait to get one. look at that , 999fps jesus christ...
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This is looking like a good alternative to Conroe as the Merom is, I beleive, basically the same processor, but on a different socket and by default has a 166 (667) FSB, thus giving more headroom for overclocking.

If only the AOpen 975 Yonah boards were available anywhere for less that £200. The merom slots straight in, as long as you have the latest BIOS loaded.
 
I think Conroe will be a better bet for overclocking, if you can find a motherboard designed to take a Conroe XE, it should support a 1333mhz FSB.

So if you can convince a motherboard that a 2.4Ghz Conroe is actually an XE, you'll be sitting at 3ghz, and the processor will be a lot less bandwidth starved than a meron. A 2.66Ghz Conroe would be 3.32Ghz by 1333FSB, which is what the XE should be at stock.

I've always prefered chips with the lowest mulitpliers, as they allow for much higher FSB, and memory subsystem performance before the processor maxes out. Only downside is needing to buy the best of the best memory. However dual channel DDR 667 is fast enough to fully saturate a 1333FSB.

Intel should be releasing the 2.9Ghz Conroes by Xmas, and hopefully they will be speed binning by then, if so then 3ghz should be a feasible 'standard air' overclock. (Crosses fingers)
 
Meron is the true 64bit, 4 issue 'Core 2' Duo 'laptop' processor, 35W power requirements compared to Conroe's 65W

Apart from that Meron = lowFSB version of conroe.
 
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Merom has all the SpeedStep and such enhancements for mobile usage. They'll cost a lot more than what a Conroe chip will.

The Merom is definately where the hardcore overclocking action will be - simply because its lower default FSB gives massive OC potential.
 
holy ****

When it finally does get round to the time for me to upgrade my rig before i go off to uni, there should be a very nice selection for me to choose from for awesome performance.

Bring on autumn.
 
To hell with an opteron now, if the conroe and merom perform as they appear to be, i'm sold on either one of these. Was looking to spend about £200 on a CPU, I think the 2.4GHz dual core conroe is supposedly being priced about £180. Surely that's too good to be true, a slight overclock will surpass FX60 speeds for £500 less.
 
Based on OCUK's current price for the Pentium 960, and 950, (which have the same list price/1000 as the Conroe 2.66Ghz, and 2.4Ghz), Id say that £329, and £199 look to be likely price markers for the two 'top mainstream' processors.

Of course when the Conroe Extreme Edition comes out, it will probably be around £599, as with the current Pentium 955EE

For people who just want a fast stock speed processor, the 2.66Ghz processor will certainly give the FX60 (and Future FX62) a serious problem. Even if the production chips arnt as good as the current benchmarks indicate, if the 2.66Ghz conroe 'ONLY' matches the FX60, runs cooler, and uses considerably less power.

AMD's current product line up is going to be pressed by performance, price, and even power/cooling requirements.

It will be nice to see the new intel chips, and hopefully we'll see something nice in response from AMD. Either way a healthy competition in the market is good for innovation, and pricing.

Probably wont even need to overclock the 2.4Ghz to match the FX60 in most applications. At 2.66Ghz intels demo rig was supposed to be outperforming an FX60 overclocked to 2.8Ghz. So I would say a stock 2.4 Conroe should be more than a match.
 
Corasik said:
I think Conroe will be a better bet for overclocking, if you can find a motherboard designed to take a Conroe XE, it should support a 1333mhz FSB.

So if you can convince a motherboard that a 2.4Ghz Conroe is actually an XE, you'll be sitting at 3ghz, and the processor will be a lot less bandwidth starved than a meron. A 2.66Ghz Conroe would be 3.32Ghz by 1333FSB, which is what the XE should be at stock.

I've always prefered chips with the lowest mulitpliers, as they allow for much higher FSB, and memory subsystem performance before the processor maxes out. Only downside is needing to buy the best of the best memory. However dual channel DDR 667 is fast enough to fully saturate a 1333FSB.

Intel should be releasing the 2.9Ghz Conroes by Xmas, and hopefully they will be speed binning by then, if so then 3ghz should be a feasible 'standard air' overclock. (Crosses fingers)
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There's an 865pe board out for £50 which supports conroe :)
 
asus have their Yonah board based on the 945g chipset on sale in uk and in stock for £112inc vat the model number is N4L-VM DH i945g supports all the Core Duo chips so probably will support Merom as well.

Only 2 ddr2 slots though 1pci-e x16 and onboard 950gm graphics. But it looks a decent price and is an Asus so should be pretty solid.

http://www.asus.com.tw/products4.aspx?l1=3&l2=54&l3=0&model=1092&modelmenu=1

Pair it up with a T2300 for about £155inc vat and you have a pretty quick system.

Rob H
 
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