3D printer required - Ender 5 Pro or Prusa i3 MKS+

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Hi all,

I've been browsing 3D printers but keep going round in circles. I can't make my mind up on whether I want to spend less, but learn more about the theory of how the printer functions and to set it up, or just spend more and just have something that 'works' and just learn about the technicalities of printing. I don't mind the self assembly of kit options that most providers seem to offer.

My main use, is to prototype some aluminium extrusions to make a working scale model , and to get a feel for how it would be assembled by the end user, as well as just seeing if the darned thing works! I'd also just like to print random objects as and when needed. I familiar with autodesk inventor, so can 3d model to a basic degree.

So, i've been looking at the Creality range , because they are cheaper, require building and either do , or don't offer self leveling. So around £300 for that budget range with the ender 5 pro. It has a decent build height which might come in useful when printing say a 300mm high extrusion by an inch wide by about 6 long, seems quite a sturdy machine which will help with wobble in z axis. What I don't like, is not having self leveling. I've seen you can buy a self leveling kit, but it seems to miss out a quarter of the board , as the probe is offset by about 3 to 4 inches, does this in the real world cause a problem? Can it be further levelled with that paper method?

*edit* Just been watching some videos of the CRS10 Pro V2, seems to also fit the bill,not too expensive but gets great results on much larger prints.

Also, i've been looking at the Prusa i3 mks+, again self build and from all the reviews, works right out of the box and gives excellent build quality. However it's a little smaller on the build size, and doesn't look quite as stable. However it's a more technically capable looking machine which can managed most if not all filaments available for FDM. It is double the price plus then some when you add in filaments and extra nozzles etc, so is it worth the extra expense? I like that it can be upgraded as they bring out new updates, but it will always be limited by its build size.

Has anyone on here got experience of either model?

Thanks!
 
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I used to have an Ender v2 and had a lot of trouble with it. This was quite some time ago and I gather they’ve changed a fair bit. No experience of any other Enders.

But I’ve now got a Prusa i3 mk3 which I’ve had for about three years and it’s been flawless since day one, it’s given me so little trouble - and I don’t feel any of it has been any fault of the printer itself. Bad filament, poor settings etc.

I barely touch the presets to be honest outside of temperature - I’ll change things for a reason, like infill, perimeters, various things, but always to get a better or stronger or faster print, not just to try and get it to work, which was what I always had to do with my Ender.

I moved house. Put it in the car, took it to new house, didn’t get it out for months. I just plonked it on the desk and printed something, my Ender would need messing about with if you bumped into the desk while it was switched off.

Ive been printing an honestly absurd amount of stuff lately and it’s just breezed through it, I think I’ve done about 5 reels of filament in the last month, possibly more, and I start a 36 hour print and go off to bed before the nozzles even heated, that’s how confident I am in it.

I don’t think you get that with an Ender, but as I said I do gather they’ve changed to an extent.

Not being able to get reliable good or even successful prints out of the Ender wasn’t down to me being inept either imo, I built my Prusa from a kit and from the first print it was great.
 
Ended up getting the Creality CR 10S V2 Pro, what a mouthful that is!

It's going to be a bit of a steep learning curve,

Can anyone recommend any books or the like to help me get started, or are youtube guides the way forward?
 
The more I learn, the more I realize that I should just get the printer that had the options I need, and ones the need less fettling.

I am looking at self levelling (or no level needed) printers, linear rails, filament run out, ability to be plugged in remotely (even if via octoprint etc), direct drive built in etc.

I am gravitating away from bed slingers for next items.
 
I have the 5 Plus.
The first thing i would recommend doing is get Hardened stainless steel tips/nozzles and use that from the very start... get them off amazon.
The brass becomes soft from the 200+ deg cell and if you are a nood like me the metal tends to be easier to bend etc.. in this case close the hole in the tip/nozzle.
As for printing... i am working usb off my PC and memory card..
I am thinking of getting octoprint server setup and messing about with that.

There is a dude on youtube called CHEP... look at his page
https://www.youtube.com/user/beginnerelectronics/featured

Found some good stuff there and there are a few people that recommend his YT channel.
There is another guy that i am starting to watch called Kersey Fabrications and he seems to be ok as well.

good luck.

EDIT:
3D LAC Adhesive spray works brilliantly.
 
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