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4000+ KAB1E vs E4300

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hi guys,
I've got the chance to get my hands a good 4000+ KAB1E @ 3.1Ghz for my current 939 rig - how do you think this will fair against a ~2.8ghz E4300 in games.
I appreciate multi-core will be better for encoding etc, but as i use my PC mainly for gaming I'm just trying to work out whether £70 is a good buy for the KAB1E or if I should just go for the asrock 4core board and an E4300 at ~£150

any advice much appreciated :)
thanks
 
I didn't find that much difference in gaming between my C2D and old AMD64.
Certainly no where near as much as some people were claiming.

That said, a multi core 4300 overclocked and a board for £150 isn't a bad upgrade imo.

Do you not have to factor in some DDR2 though?

If not then go for the E4300. If its going to cost more to add ram as well, then go for the AMD 4000+
 
Digital Punk said:
I didn't find that much difference in gaming between my C2D and old AMD64.
Certainly no where near as much as some people were claiming.

That said, a multi core 4300 overclocked and a board for £150 isn't a bad upgrade imo.

Do you not have to factor in some DDR2 though?

If not then go for the E4300. If its going to cost more to add ram as well, then go for the AMD 4000+
Personally i disagree ref the gaming. My spec in the sig relaced a [email protected] with 2x1gig ram. All other hardware stayed the same (Mobo was A8n-Sli delux before).
At mo chosen graphical level and Res i saw slowdown during COD2, COH, MTW2 and LOMAC to name just 4. With my C2D, all slowdown has ceased in all the above games at the same res detail levels.
LOMAC (very very cpu dependant) is silky smooth in large battles even with all detail levels to max and settings 4 x AA/16AF.
As for other Apps, DVD/CD converting/burning is miles quicker.
My Mobo/Mem/Cpu in sig cost £350 delivered from OCUK, ive recovered over a 1/3rd of that sofar selling my mem and Cpu (mobo died).
 
I sold off my amd64 cpu mobo and ram and put in a bit more cash to get my c2d setup, i was using a 4000 kab1e as well. Was an excellent cpu, 3.1ghz on a smidge over stock volts. I would, if your funds allow, goto a c2d. The performance difference was huge for me and more and more games are now supporting dual cores and you will see big gains in those.
 
some simulation games(now realistic is LOMAC btw?) and rts games do a huge and unproportional amount of cpu work compared to most games. cod2, not sure what went wrong there, when it came out the top cards were cpu limited because i dunno, its assumed just poor coding. generally 90% of games are gpu limited and you won't see large increases, sup com, COH and a bunch of rts's do see large increases in fps but then again the jump from 25-45fps in sup com isn't at all noticable, the main difference with sup com is the minimum framerate and that is noticable but its also the biggest scale rts there is. generally people only get issues at huge numbers of units and in a massive battle. even most rts's don't have issues because they aren't on that scale.

most fps's, rpg's and what not don't get huge gains at all, tiny gains but they will generally have gains. the reason i would still say go dual core is because with dual cores, quad cores and more on the horizon games makers can start to implement far more complex and time consuming physics, meaning more realistic games, better action, more cpu power for more advanced AI. most games are now writen to use dual core but still its just the ability to use both, we're not at the stage where you need both cores to deal with the physics, but games in the next year or two will do just that, NEED both cores. the physics in the next star wars game, the europhia engine, look sweet and will most likely need a very beefy cpu to run nicely.

basically, get a dual core, even a dual core ath x2, you won't see big gains now unless you basically only play a very small and specific set of games. but you'll be stabbing yourself in the foot by getting another single core.

maybe crysis will be out in a couple months and need a dual core, who knows right now. there are a lotta big games coming this year.
 
Digital Punk said:
I didn't find that much difference in gaming between my C2D and old AMD64.
Certainly no where near as much as some people were claiming.

That said, a multi core 4300 overclocked and a board for £150 isn't a bad upgrade imo.

Do you not have to factor in some DDR2 though?

If not then go for the E4300. If its going to cost more to add ram as well, then go for the AMD 4000+

I would go for the asrock board as that would allow me to use my 2gb of DDR - the clocks are a bit limited apparently - just trying to work out therefore if I only get 2.6-2.8ghz from the e4300, will it be much faster than the 4000+ @ 3.1-3.2Ghz
 
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