4090 Upgrade

Megahurtz400 · 2 Jul 2023 at 19:21

Hey all!

Have recently come into some surplus cash and can now justify building a bit of a "dream spec" pc to future proof me far into the future.

Currently have a 7600, Asus B650 Prime and a 3070.

I'm looking at 4090's and wondering if my 7600 will be a bottleneck at 1440p?

If so, would it be worth the extra in getting something like the 7800x3D or 7900x3D, or would there really be marginal gains from upgrading the CPU?

If the 7600 will bottleneck the 4090, i'd lean more towards getting a 4080 as I don't want to spend out on a 4090 and then a new CPU

Craig_d1 · 2 Jul 2023 at 19:46

you want to go to 14:15. Far as I can see, he talks how at 1440p, the gpu is every so slightly the bottleneck as not that much in it for the new gen cpu's. the 7600 in 10 game average comes out just ahead(call it tied) with the 5800x3d. I'd say go for if you really want the 4090 go for it, keep the cpu you have and then check out the reviews of the 8600 or 8600x when they come out next year if you feel the need to upgrade, but really, you'll be getting 200+fps at 1440, so I don't think you'll be slumbing it

jigger · 2 Jul 2023 at 20:06

Depends on the game somewhat, but yes are going to be pretty badly bottlenecked running an RTX 4090 with anything less than a 7800X3D.

decto · 2 Jul 2023 at 20:43

I'd keep your CPU for now, the 4090 will be a awesome upgrade and you can swap the CPU for an 8800 or whatever they call it next year for another nice boost.

Tetras · 2 Jul 2023 at 20:48

HUB have a video where they compare the 5800X3D, 7700 and 7800X3D:

Ryzen 7 5800X3D vs. Ryzen 7 7700, Best Value AMD 8-Core CPU in 2023?

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You lose a chunk in some games, but some are unaffected. If you have an ultrawide the impact will be smaller.

One option is to go AMD with the 7900 XTX, HUB's testing with RDNA 2 and Ampere showed that it was less affected by CPU speed (part 1, part 2), but whether this is still true for RDNA 3 and Ada, I don't know (and the X3D CPUs are somewhat unique).

bigbob1 · 2 Jul 2023 at 20:53

Having gone from a 1080ti to a 4090 just this week, I can say while there are some bottlenecks, the jump is massive.

I did upgrade my cpu but I'm on am4 and didn't see the point of am5 just YET, so got a 5800x3d, thw machine is an utter dream now

Megahurtz400 · 2 Jul 2023 at 21:06

Thanks for the replies all

Craig_d1 said:
you want to go to 14:15. Far as I can see, he talks how at 1440p, the gpu is every so slightly the bottleneck as not that much in it for the new gen cpu's. the 7600 in 10 game average comes out just ahead(call it tied) with the 5800x3d. I'd say go for if you really want the 4090 go for it, keep the cpu you have and then check out the reviews of the 8600 or 8600x when they come out next year if you feel the need to upgrade, but really, you'll be getting 200+fps at 1440, so I don't think you'll be slumbing it

This is what i'm thinking, a 4090 will give me 5+ years of future proofing in the GPU department, so in a 2/3 years I can drop a new CPU in if I really feel limited on something.

decto said:
I'd keep your CPU for now, the 4090 will be a awesome upgrade and you can swap the CPU for an 8800 or whatever they call it next year for another nice boost.

As above, think this is the play here!

Tetras said:
HUB have a video where they compare the 5800X3D, 7700 and 7800X3D:

Ryzen 7 5800X3D vs. Ryzen 7 7700, Best Value AMD 8-Core CPU in 2023?

Australia, Cloud III: https://www.amazon.com.au/dp/B0C3BV19Q3New Zealand, Cloud III: https://www.mightyape.co.nz/product/hyperx-cloud-iii-gaming-headset-bl...

www.youtube.com

You lose a chunk in some games, but some are unaffected. If you have an ultrawide the impact will be smaller.

One option is to go AMD with the 7900 XTX, HUB's testing with RDNA 2 and Ampere showed that it was less affected by CPU speed (part 1, part 2), but whether this is still true for RDNA 3 and Ada, I don't know (and the X3D CPUs are somewhat unique).

While i'm tempted by the cost savings on the 7900XTX, can't help but see the 4090 as so much more powerful and with future proofing being probably the main concern, and me having the money now for the 4090, feel like i'd be disappointed with the AMD card

bigbob1 said:
Having gone from a 1080ti to a 4090 just this week, I can say while there are some bottlenecks, the jump is massive.

I did upgrade my cpu but I'm on am4 and didn't see the point of am5 just YET, so got a 5800x3d, thw machine is an utter dream now

Thanks for making me spend more

Why are the only white Nvidia cards the most expensive?!

bigbob1 · 2 Jul 2023 at 21:07

Once you go black you never go back.... Damn... Wrong window