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4770k v 8350

HEIS3NB3RG

HEIS3NB3RG

HEIS3NB3RG

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Which is more future proof for gaming?

Spending around £1300 on a rig, but I want it to be usable in 5+ years.

Was leaning towards AMD due to eight cores now in next gen consoles.

Would appreciate any pointers :)
 
4770K is probably more future proof. It also has 8 threads and with 4 powerful cores (in comparison to the single thread performance of a 8350) so it's performance is in no way lacking. By the time a 4770K can't handle games, the 8350 will not be able to either. This is likely to be a fair few years away anyways.
 
I had this same dilemma recently, opted for the 4770k as the current crop of games etc its the clear winner and will likely stay that way for a while until devs get on board with mantle and start writing games to utilise more cores, until that point the 4770k is the better choice.

Once the stars and planets align, Mantle is adopted by most devs and games are written to utilise mantle and utilise as many cores as available, then AMD chips will excel.

thats a far off future if it ever happens at all.

Should it come to pass however, selling a 4770k will pretty much give you enough cash back to buy a 8350 anyhow.
 
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So this is not worth it then? Comes to £1280 with 2 Ruby Vouchers and BF4
 
You get a copy of BF4 with most 290s anyhow, also if you buy a 4770k you get FF14 and Rome2, and OCUK are generally pretty badass at lobbing in free vouchers etc too ;)

For that money id buy the parts myself and lob it together or if not comfortable building yourself then find a forum member nearby who would be willing to come show you how its done etc, entice them with free beer and cake.. everyone loves cake!
 
HEIS3NB3RG said:
I know I should, I'm just worried that the AMD will outlast the Intel due to the number of cores.
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It won't happen, anything the 8 core FX chips can do, the 4770K can do quicker using a lot less power. If mantle improves CPU usage, that improvement will benefit the 4770K as well. Tbh Intel are so far ahead atm it's not really something you should spend much time thinking about, Intel are the only way to go right now.. Graphics card and SSD are harder choices as lot's of competition in those areas.. If you want more cores you could go with a 4930K X79 build..
 
All other things equal (i.e. assuming no compromises are made elsewhere in the system to cover the extra £100 or so for the Intel), 4770k is the only choice.

Best case workload for the 8350 will see it matching or (maybe) marginally outperforming the 4770k, worst case will see the i7 annihilate the FX. Most usage scenarios will see the 4770k being comfortably the better performer. Whatever happens in computing over the next 3 or 4 years, the 4770k will be the better CPU most of the time.

However, if buying the 4770k means too many compromises elsewhere, then the 8350 can be the better option. At your budget, that's unlikely, though
 
+1 for the Intel at this price point, i have the sig rig, and an [email protected], and the intel (while its not a 4770, the 4770 will beat my 3930 for single thread) is much smoother in games, and during general desktop use.
you gets what you pays for :)
 
imginy said:
I would go for i7 4770k with a custom 290.

Various websites are putting 8350 on par or below the haswell i3 so I really wouldn't even think about getting one.
toms
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-cpu-review-overclock,3106-5.html

other one
http://www.hardcoreware.net/intel-core-i3-4340-review/5/
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Various websites compare locked I3s to stock speed AMDs. Which is stupid.

If you take any notice of those sorts of reviews then you should be ashamed of yourself.



Is my FPS from Metro Last Light. It also uses 8 cores.

Reviews that run AMD unlocked FX CPUs at stock speeds are completely loaded in favour of a locked CPU. That's boo**** no matter how you look at it.



See? it's actually proudly stated on AMDs logos, as well as the case badge they give you.
 
ALXAndy said:
Various websites compare locked I3s to stock speed AMDs. Which is stupid.

If you take any notice of those sorts of reviews then you should be ashamed of yourself.



Is my FPS from Metro Last Light. It also uses 8 cores.

Reviews that run AMD unlocked FX CPUs at stock speeds are completely loaded in favour of a locked CPU. That's boo**** no matter how you look at it.



See? it's actually proudly stated on AMDs logos, as well as the case badge they give you.
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The i7 is also unlocked.
 
imginy said:
I would go for i7 4770k with a custom 290.

Various websites are putting 8350 on par or below the haswell i3 so I really wouldn't even think about getting one.
toms
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-cpu-review-overclock,3106-5.html

other one
http://www.hardcoreware.net/intel-core-i3-4340-review/5/
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That only counts for lightly-threaded games.
In games that properly utilise multiple threads the 83xx series recoups most of its losses.

I'd pick the 4770k given the choice, however. Put it this way: the 4770k gives you consistently great performance. The 8320/8350 gives you great performance in certain tasks and poor performance in others, but at a lower price.
 
imginy said:
The i7 is also unlocked.
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I didn't say it wasn't !

Yes the I7 is unlocked and yes, it's better than a FX. It also costs over twice as much.

If you have the money, or, think that your processor for some reason could be more important than your GPU choice? of course, I7. However if you're on a tight budget balance is the most important thing. It's all well and good having and I7 but then you're committed to providing it a decent GPU subsystem to make sure you get the full potential out of it.

Hint - I would say 90% of people building a PC go with Intel and then derp de derp the rest of the rig.
 
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