4K - 360 Video editing system

[aVdub]

I know this is one of those what what what posts and if in the wrong place, sorry or I speak/email direct with Overclockers that would be fine.

I used to build pc's years ago and am considering one now for working on 4k and 360 videos and tbh the world of components has changed so much that I am struggling.

I'd like to spend £1600 and would seek parts that are function over looking bling.

Areas I'm struggling with are CPU - GPU - Ram - Board

I'm good with AMD Ryzen - AMD Board and Nvidia cards and I've always used Kingston & Crucial, but again am open to suggestions.

Thank you for any suggestions

 

[Tetras]

What software are you using?

 

[aVdub]

What software are you using?

I'll be using Davinci, insta360 with something from Adobe later perhaps.

 

[Tetras]

I'll be using Davinci, insta360 with something from Adobe later perhaps.

You might want to read this, to help with your choice:

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From what I'm aware, AMD cards still perform pretty well in Davinci, but nvidia is still preferable for most workstation-type software.

Core Ultra CPUs are competitive for productivity, e.g. 245K/265K, but AMD's 9000 series is better rounded with no real weaknesses. Core Ultra CPUs still perform lower than they should in some apps/tasks, even with the latest updates.

 

[mid_gen]

Intel is the better platform for video editing with the Quicksync media engines supporting 10-bit 4:2:2 h265….and the 265k is hard to beat generally for productivity and value.

 

[aVdub]

Thank you for the replies.

If it helps I could quite easily drop DaVinci as this is not an important part of what I do with the PC and concentrate more on the Insta 360 software side of things.

 

[AMDPower]

Intel is the better platform for video editing with the Quicksync media engines supporting 10-bit 4:2:2 h265….and the 265k is hard to beat generally for productivity and value.

this really but still needs to be paired with an Nvidia GPU, I would steer clear of AMD GPU for your use case. If you wan to splash out Intel 295k plus 64/32GB ram of your choosing and 5080 or 5070ti. The problem is that is much larger than your budget and you were like 2 month too late, the prices of ram and GPU have skyrocketed. You also must have NVME drives this will help your editing a lot but can use mechanical for long term storage.

something like this if you can afford it, unfortunately it will spill over your budget

Intel 285k/5080/64GB ram for high end system
Intel 265k/5070ti/5070/32GB ram for mid ranged system ( 5070 if budget does not allow.)
Inte 265k/5060ti/32GB ram for lower end system

I would recommend Nvidia GPU and at least 32GB ram for video editing but the RAM alone is almost £400 of your budget gone. I would also recommend the 5070ti/ over the 5060Ti as its over 40% faster or even a 5070.

 

[aVdub]

this really but still needs to be paired with an Nvidia GPU, I would steer clear of AMD GPU for your use case. If you wan to splash out Intel 295k plus 64/32GB ram of your choosing and 5080 or 5070ti. The problem is that is much larger than your budget and you were like 2 month too late, the prices of ram and GPU have skyrocketed. You also must have NVME drives this will help your editing a lot but can use mechanical for long term storage.

something like this if you can afford it, unfortunately it will spill over your budget

Intel 285k/5080/64GB ram for high end system
Intel 265k/5070ti/5070/32GB ram for mid ranged system ( 5070 if budget does not allow.)
Inte 265k/5060ti/32GB ram for lower end system

I would recommend Nvidia GPU and at least 32GB ram for video editing but the RAM alone is almost £400 of your budget gone. I would also recommend the 5070ti/ over the 5060Ti as its over 40% faster or even a 5070.

I'm thinking that if I can scrape by for now and upgrade when prices are more favourable, but obviously not end up with a machine that just gathers dust.

 

[AMDPower]

I'm thinking that if I can scrape by for now and upgrade when prices are more favourable, but obviously not end up with a machine that just gathers dust.

I understand and many are doing this, postponing upgrading their system until prices are more favourable, the only caveat I have to add is that its could be a long time until prices return to something resembling sane prices. I might be 12-24 months possibly, I don't see either GPU or RAM prices dropping before this time frame, but market is difficult to predict at the moment, something might happen and prices return to normal.

What is you current system?

 

[aVdub]

I understand and many are doing this, postponing upgrading their system until prices are more favourable, the only caveat I have to add is that its could be a long time until prices return to something resembling sane prices. I might be 12-24 months possibly, I don't see either GPU or RAM prices dropping before this time frame, but market is difficult to predict at the moment, something might happen and prices return to normal.

What is you current system?

I'm will to play the long game if I can get by for now and don't mind spending more later.

My current system fits in your hand and does 4k 360insta, but struggles badly when exporting.

 

[AMDPower]

I'm will to play the long game if I can get by for now and don't mind spending more later.

My current system fits in your hand and does 4k 360insta, but struggles badly when exporting.

this is the best strategy, buy one well, cry once. Hopefully ram/gpu will drop in price once you ready or AI bubble bursts.

 

[sastusbulbas]

For purely video editing I would be looking at Intel with an Nvidia GPU.
245k or 265k with a 5060ti or 5070ti depending on budget.
32gb of DDR5.
And at that resolution you will be needing storage space with a large capacity Gen4 NVMe or three with a mechanical back up often recommended.

It's certainly worth looking at what CPU is recommended for the various software you may use.

In a recent DAW build that would also game we would have went with the 265k, but dropped that for the 9900x simply due to the software required not using efficiency cores.

 

[martin363]

To be honest, for your needs, you would be better off getting the Mac Mini Pro M4, or waiting a couple of months for the M5. I t will fly through everything you want, and save you some cash.

 

[aVdub]

To be honest, for your needs, you would be better off getting the Mac Mini Pro M4, or waiting a couple of months for the M5. I t will fly through everything you want, and save you some cash.

No I will not be looking at apple products.

Thank you

 

[martin363]

No I will not be looking at apple products.

Thank you

Your money, your choice.

 

[Mattcee2]

To be honest, for your needs, you would be better off getting the Mac Mini Pro M4, or waiting a couple of months for the M5. I t will fly through everything you want, and save you some cash.

We do editing and video stuff and for your budget, the Apple silicon will give better results. At that price, they are great little machines. It’s only when you need real GPU power, Apple gets left behind.

 

[aVdub]

Cheers guys.

For reasons we as a family do not wish to go back to apple products again and will be sticking to what I asked advice for on the first post

The posts above have been greatly appreciated and I'm now beginning to add groups of products to my wish list here for future consideration.

 

[aVdub]

I've been able to free up some funds that'll be available soonish and got the nod of approval from the boss and have been looking at these.

Already bought the case.

My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x MSI B860I Edge TI WIFI (LGA 1851) DDR5 ITX Motherboard (SKU: MOT-MSI-05938) = £199.99
• 1 x be quiet! Pure Power 12 850W ATX 3.1 PCIe 5.1 80 Plus Gold Power Supply (SKU: POW-BEQ-06576) = £179.95
• 1 x Gigabyte Z890 AORUS PRO ICE (LGA1851) DDR5 ATX Motherboard (SKU: MOT-GIG-03483) = £284.99
• 1 x Asus ROG Strix B860-A Gaming WIFI (LGA 1851) DDR5 ATX Motherboard (SKU: MOT-ASU-04067) = £209.99
• 1 x Asrock Z890 Steel Legend WIFI (LGA 1851) DDR5 ATX Motherboard (SKU: MOT-ASR-03360) = £245.99
• 1 x Asus GeForce RTX 5060 Ti Prime 8GB GDDR7 PCI-Express Graphics Card (SKU: GRA-ASU-05086) = £399.95
• 1 x be quiet! Dark Power 14 1000W ATX 3.1 PCIe 5.1 80 Plus Titanium Modular Power Supply (SKU: POW-BEQ-06574) = £199.99
• 1 x Asrock Z790 Pro RS (LGA 1700) DDR5 ATX Motherboard (SKU: MOT-ASR-03830) = £179.99
• 1 x Intel Core Ultra 9 285K (Arrow Lake) Socket LGA 1851 Processor - Retail (SKU: PRO-INT-03110) = £509.98
• 1 x Asus ROG STRIX Z890-A GAMING WIFI (LGA 1851) DDR5 ATX Motherboard (SKU: MOT-ASU-03417) = £350.00
• 1 x Asus ROG Strix B860-G Gaming WIFI (LGA 1851) DDR5 Micro-ATX Motherboard (SKU: MOT-ASU-04068) = £304.99
• 1 x Asus TUF Gaming Z890-Pro WIFI (LGA 1851) DDR5 ATX Motherboard (SKU: MOT-ASU-03432) = £249.95
• 1 x Crucial Pro OC 32GB (2x16GB) DDR5 PC5-48000C38 6400MHz UDIMM Dual Channel Kit (SKU: MEM-CRU-03385) = £379.99
• 1 x Seasonic Prime TX-700 700W 80 Plus Titanium Modular Fanless Power Supply (SKU: CA-07J-SS) = £219.95
• 1 x be quiet! Dark Power 14 1200W ATX 3.1 PCIe 5.1 80 Plus Titanium Modular Power Supply (SKU: POW-BEQ-06572) = £219.94
• 1 x Antec CX600M Trio ARGB M-ATX Mini Tower - Black (SKU: CAS-ATC-04165) = £74.99

Could I have some advice if I am walking the right walk or not please.
One thing I need to find out from overclockers* is if they price match, due to finding one item direct from the manufacturer at a much cheaper price.

* Removed link due to finding a new member called Overclockers

 

[Tetras]

Could I have some advice if I am walking the right walk or not please.

If you buy the case (CX600M) in basket, you need a MATX motherboard, of which the Strix B860-G is the only one.

There's a z790 board in there, which is not compatible (this is 12th-14th gen).

1 x Intel Core Ultra 9 285K (Arrow Lake) Socket LGA 1851 Processor - Retail (SKU: PRO-INT-03110) = £509.98

Personally, I find the price is not justified for the performance over the 265K. The 285K only has 4 extra E-Cores (8P/16E versus 8P/12E).

1 x Seasonic Prime TX-700 700W 80 Plus Titanium Modular Fanless Power Supply (SKU: CA-07J-SS) = £219.95

Fanless PSUs aren't really worth the premium when most PSUs run passively at idle/low load now. This looks like an old design too, pre ATX 3.0/3.1 ?

• 1 x Asus ROG STRIX Z890-A GAMING WIFI (LGA 1851) DDR5 ATX Motherboard (SKU: MOT-ASU-03417) = £350.00
• 1 x Asus ROG Strix B860-G Gaming WIFI (LGA 1851) DDR5 Micro-ATX Motherboard (SKU: MOT-ASU-04068) = £304.99
• 1 x Asus TUF Gaming Z890-Pro WIFI (LGA 1851) DDR5 ATX Motherboard (SKU: MOT-ASU-03432) = £249.95

Asus put £100-£150 extra on all their Strix boards for the latest gen and around £50-£100 on the TUF.

They do have some improvements for that money, but I wouldn't pay it myself. I do acknowledge the need for a decent VRM/heatsink if running at high load for long periods, so not necessarily suggesting you pay £100 either.

1 x Crucial Pro OC 32GB (2x16GB) DDR5 PC5-48000C38 6400MHz UDIMM Dual Channel Kit (SKU: MEM-CRU-03385) = £379.99

I think I'd buy the 48GB kit for £450 instead (C48 6000). Yes, the latency is poor, but for your workload I could see you running out of RAM and capacity is king in that situation.

I haven't seen benchmarks for arrow lake with productivity, unfortunately, but the performance hit with slower RAM for previous gens was small for most workloads.

 

[Gray2233]

To add:

If I was putting down £180-220 on a power supply, it would be on one of these:

My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x Antec HCG 1200 Pro 1200W ATX 3.1 PCIe 5.1 80 Plus Platinum Modular Power Supply (SKU: POW-ATC-02747) = £209.99
• 1 x Antec HCG 1000 Pro 1000W ATX 3.1 PCIe 5.1 80 Plus Platinum Modular Power Supply (SKU: POW-ATC-02746) = £189.95

Total: £407.93 (includes delivery: £7.99)​

I'd also consider the Seasonic Vertex platform which is what the HCG is based on. You're either getting more watts for the same money or the same for less, both rate as high tier on the SPL tier list much like the Dark Power 14 but the Antec/Seasonic have been out longer and are a proven platform. Either way, it's all massive overkill for the system specs you're looking at, a good 850-1000W for £80-110 would be far more than ample.

The difference in efficiency between platinum and titanium is purely marketing, you'd need to be running the things at full pelt for years before making up the difference in your electric bill and it's frankly a poor standard of quality anyway.

I also agree with @Tetras that the 285K is frankly a crap value proposition given the performance difference between that and the 265K.