4K ULTRA HD IS IT WORTH IT FOR

Short answer - no

You need native 4k content or HDR for it to really shine. Technically the original PlayStation has been updated for HDR, but with low 4:2:0 chroma meaning poor colour reproduction.
 
just buy a 4k normal tv (non hdr )and bang the contrast / brightness and saturation up if you want cheap HDR just like in a hdr photographs ( which looks false to me )
hdr definitely looks better for movies though if they have been encoded in hdr.

I went from 1080p to 4k and its definitely sharper but depends on the size you get and how far away you sit.
 
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blueshift said:
Playing games with the x box one, ps4, not the S or Pro.
is there a noticable upgrade in quality?
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Where would this upgrade in quality come from? Thin air?

The quality has to be in the source in the first place. Using a 1080P source on a 4K tv should have zero impact on quality but it all depends on the quality of the upscalers and panel.

Anything that is "added" to the picture would be stuff the original director never intended to be there so it would go against everything videophiles stand for.

So no there should be zero noticeable upgrade in quality the only upgrade in quality would be when you feed the tv with a true 4K source.
 
I would say yes, recently got a HDR10 TV and the difference on HDR material is incredible.

Xbox/PS4 look so much better and then UHD/HDR Bluerays :eek:
 
kitch9 said:
Where do you lot get this tripe?
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Perceptually 4:2:0 is an efficient way to throw out unnecessary data, making it a good way to pack video, but at the end of the day it’s still ¼ the color information of a full resolution 4:4:4 or RGB image. Since video sources are already 4:2:0 this ends up being a clever way to transmit video to a TV, as at the most basic level a higher quality mode would be redundant (post-processing aside). But while this works well for video it also only works well for video; for graphics workloads it significantly degrades the image as the color information needed to drive subpixel-accurate text and GUIs is lost.

As the PS4 doesn't have a UHD drive and as streaming services such as Netflix only support HDR at 4k, not 1080p, it means that HDR on the original PS4 will only apply to games and therefore there will be a downgrade in image quality vs a non HDR full RGB setting.
 
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I love how someone can be told by someone else that what they are seeing with their own eyes is wrong LOL! Clearly there is something being added to the water supply or an Emperors New Clothes scenario going on here, because I read A LOT of apparently delusional people saying how happy they are with the an HDR10 TV and the PS4/Xbox/Netflix etc. :D:rolleyes:
 
Legend said:
I love how someone can be told by someone else that what they are seeing with their own eyes is wrong LOL! Clearly there is something being added to the water supply or an Emperors New Clothes scenario going on here, because I read A LOT of apparently delusional people saying how happy they are with the an HDR10 TV and the PS4/Xbox/Netflix etc. :D:rolleyes:
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This massively depends on what people had before.

If you had a cheap 1080p LCD TV from 6 years ago, then technology has come along way and a midrange 2016 LED HDR set will undoubtedly look better

But does a 4k TV magically make a 1080p image better? No.
 
VincentHanna said:
This massively depends on what people had before.

If you had a cheap 1080p LCD TV from 6 years ago, then technology has come along way and a midrange 2016 LED HDR set will undoubtedly look better

But does a 4k TV magically make a 1080p image better? No.
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Well yes, but my point is that someone can't make such a sweeping statement as "no, it's NOT better" without knowing exactly what TV they had, what condition it was in, or what settings they were viewing it under! So many variables here.
 
blueshift said:
Playing games with the x box one, ps4, not the S or Pro.
is there a noticable upgrade in quality?
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You won't get any benefit due to the resolution, but will if the panel is better than what it's replacing. Basically, don't worry about the 4K part if you won't be feeding it 4k content. Having said all that, 4K/HDR looks glorious. So if you are planning on upgrading your tv soon, it's worth getting something that handles these well. 1080p still looks good, but it's starting to become old hat:) Plus when you do get a Pro or Scorpio, or whatever, in the future you're good to go!
 
There is so much fail in this thread its staggering

Neither the xbox one, ps4 or ps4 pro have 4k bluray drives....PERIOD! The only one which does is the xbox one s (which the OP has discounted).

The xbox one (original) does not have HDR support, only the ps4 has that

Netflix and Amazon has joined the 4k and HDR metadata streams together meaning to get HDR you need a 4k device (which the ps4 isn't).

The ONLY advantage is in games (eg, the last of us) which support HDR.

So the answer is, Yes......you will get a bit better quality on HDR enabled PS4 games but since 99.9999% aren't and you are now scaling 1080p to 4k I wouldn't personally bother
 
blueshift said:
Playing games with the x box one, ps4, not the S or Pro.
is there a noticable upgrade in quality?
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This is the OP.

Answer to OP is no unless your current tv is worse than the 4k panel in terms of PQ. Nothing to do with Res but PQ. As in 720P plasmas had better PQ than 1080P LCD's of their time. So even though they had less res their PQ was superior.

If he has a crap tv then yes there will be a noticeable upgrade but that has nothing to do with the 4k part it's because he buys a better panel than his current tv.

It could go the other way though. Say he has a brilliant 1080p panel like a Panny Plasma or top of the range lcd with LED backlight and then buys a cheap crappy 4k tv. He would actually lose image quality.

So it all depends on what panel he has now. He could save money and buy a decent 1080p panel. I picked up a top of the range 1080p 55" Sony for £449 quite a few months back.
 
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