5 day split weight loss and toning workout program

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Hi everyone, just need a bit of advice. A friend of mine is just starting the gym and she's quite nervous about it cause she's got no idea what to do. She asked me to help her write up a 5 day routine for weight loss while also getting toned up. I'm no gym expert or personal trainer so hence why I'm here for help haha. I don't know her exact measurements but she is roughly 5ft4 and weighs between 50kg and 60kg i think. She does have quite an unhealthy diet which I said will have to change for progress, but that's a different story.

I did some research and found 4 possible ways to split the routine:

1. Full body workout. Lots of people were saying that full body workouts comprising primarily of compound exercises is the most effective routine for beginners. The plan goes as follows; Monday starts with the full body workout, Tuesday is intense cardio, Wednesday is full body, Thursday intense cardio and finally Friday is full body. Obviously I would assume that for each day there would be a change in the exercise so it's not a repeatiton all the way through the week.

2. Split into upper and lower body days. This was also very popular when I was reading up about the routines. There were two types of plan, the first one consisted of Monday doing upper body workouts along with 20mins of cardio, Tuesday doing lower body and 20mins cardio, Wednesday rest day, Thursday back on the upper body (with different exercises) and the 20min cardio, Friday lower body (with different exercise) and 20mim cardio, and finally Saturday is the full body, or strength day.

3. The third also splits it into upper and lower similarly to the second one above, however, instead of doing cardio every session, it is brought down to one day, which would either be the Wednesday or the Saturday.

4. Last but not least is separating out the week by muscle groups. So Monday might be legs, Tuesday chest and back, Wednesday arms, Thursday core. A don't really know if I'm honest haha. And then there's the question if this option is the best, would cardio be implemented everyday or separate days? Not a clue.

So basically what I'm asking is if any one of these routine structures are the best, and if so which one. If not, does anyone know a simple yet extremely effective 5 day routine that just can't go wrong

Finally, the hardest part was what exercises. I know I'm going to stick with compound over isolated, but which exercises should i put into the different days. That's obviously goes in part with the type of routine. Hope anyone can help, many thanks in advance
 
Sort the diet first - don't worry about the exercise for now.

Fix the diet - do some exercise - doesn't matter what the exercise is. Most people are not interested in split days/muscle groups etc for weight loss - it's not required.

Don't over-complicate it as that's how people get bored and just stop.

No coaches/PT's in the gym??
 
Sort the diet first - don't worry about the exercise for now.

She's very eager to get into the 'working out' aspect of things and somewhat refuses to alter her unhealthy eating habits unless she's going to gym haha. Stubborn.

No coaches/PT's in the gym??

This will sound a bit stupid, but she doesn't seem to want to ask them for a program despite the fact that's why they are there. I told her she should ask because I'm not a trained professional, or a trained anything for that matter, but she was adamant I write her a program. Stubbornness yet again haha.
 
Without sounding harsh or nasty...She doesn't want to change her diet, she doesn't want to ask for help from qualified PT/coaches.....Good luck with her.:eek::eek:
 
Yeah I know haha. She says the most contradicting things though. Despite the fact she's reluctant to change her diet etc. She's still, I guess you could say overly motivated, to get into a healthy lifestyle. I'll be speaking to her about nutrition because that is more than half the process. For the meantime, does the workout schedule suffice, please criticise haha. Many thanks
 
She's not going to out-train a bad diet. It's like 90% of the process. It doesn't matter if she chooses a full body workout or upper/lower split, it's not going to do anything if she's eating more than her TDEE.
 
Right so let's say for hypothetical sakes that she has a solid diet and is ready to starting implementing gym. Does this workout scheme seem suitable?


Monday:
10min warm up
Barbell squat 3 sets 12 reps
Stiff leg deadlift 3 sets 12 reps
Dumbbell bench press 4 sets 10 reps
Dumbbell shoulder press 3 sets 12 reps
Lat pull down 3 sets 10 reps

Tuesday:
Barbell circuit
50 rep back sqaut
25 rep supinated barbell row
15 push ups
10 overhead press
Repeat 4 times

Wednesday:
10min warm up
Dumbbell lunges 4 sets 10 reps
Leg curls 3 sets 10 reps
Standing calf raise 3 sets 12 reps
Incline barbell bench press 3 sets 10 reps
Bent over row 4 sets 8 reps
Lateral raises 3 sets 10 reps

Thursday:
10min warm up
10 push ups
10 leg raises
20 Russian twist
Choose any cardio machine (alternate weekly)
5min warm up
10sec max intensity
30sec moderate
Repeat over 20min period
10min cool down

Friday:
10min warm up
Goblet squat 4 sets 12 reps
Leg extension 3 set 12 reps
Barbell deadlift 3 sets 12 reps
Dumbbell bench press 3 sets 10 reps
Seated cable row 4 sets 8 reps
Upright row 3 sets 12 reps
Chin up 3 sets 8 reps

Saturday & Sunday: rest
 
Again - why would you make something so complicated up for her? What does she want to achieve??

If it's weight loss - sort the diet, then any cardio/weights/body exercises will suffice. Making something so complex for various days/splitting body parts etc seems way over engineered.

Does she even know what half of those exercises are??

I'll leave you to it now - I really think she needs to sort herself out rather than asking someone to magically come up with an program which is going to do nothing without a decent/sensible diet.
 
Yeah I know, I've told her already that the diet is more than half the story, I've told her that she can achieve her goal without setting foot into a gym, but she is adamant. And if the program i have arranged is overvomplicated then please help me fix it so it is suitable for her once her diet and nutrition is in the bag, thank you.
 
Try and just think about this theoretically. As if it is the perfect scenario. All I'm worried about is the program in the meantime. I know that nutrition will be a challenge, however, the motivation is present in her. I came her to get advice on this program I had arranged, please advise me.
 
Just read that, very informative. Much appreciated. Would you suggest taking cardio out of the equation for the meantime and just settling with the workout provided by GordyR?
 
That's down to personal preference if she enjoys cardio then throw some in, if she's like me and can't stand it then leave it out. she'll still make massive changes with a good diet and consistently following that workout.
 
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