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please spec me a £500 pc build guys for my little brother for Christmas he needs
every thing as he only uses gaming laptop and wants a pc he doesn't need
mouse and key board he just need tower, monitor and OS cheers

also he plays mine-craft a lot
 
What others games will he be playing? With an OS and monitor the budget will be pushed down to £330 odd. I believe a Richland build will be required for this.
 
What others games will he be playing? With an OS and monitor the budget will be pushed down to £330 odd. I believe a Richland build will be required for this.

hes play minecraft and dota and terria mainly young lads games

Reaper, given that from the sound of things he doesn't really need a discrete graphics card just yet, maybe he'd like a Haswell for Xmas? ;)

What do you make of this build, that will allow scope to upgrade as his needs change?


YOUR BASKET
1 x Intel Core i3-4330 3.50GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail £109.99
1 x Gigabyte Z87-HD3 Intel Z87 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £79.99
1 x **B Grade** IIyama Prolite E2273HDS 22" Widescreen LED Monitor - Black £74.99
1 x Microsoft Windows 8.1 64-Bit DVD - OEM (WN7-00614) £71.99
1 x Xigmatek Alfar Midi Tower Windowed Case - Black/Orange £49.99
1 x Corsair XMS3 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 PC3-10666C8 1333MHz Dual-Channel (CMX4GX3M2A1333C8) £39.95
1 x OCZ CoreXtreme 500w '80 Plus' Power Supply £35.99
1 x **B Grade** Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB SATA 6Gb/s 16MB Cache - OEM (HD-252-SE) £30
1 x OcUK 22x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £11.39
Total : £517.78 (includes shipping : £11.25).




The chassis looks cool and already brings two 120mm fans. Even one with LED. Most budget cases don't. It also provides decent-ish cable management opportunities and USB 3.0.

The mobo, while budget, is the latest Intel 1150 socket and contains the best chipset (Z87) for Haswell, and can support i5-4's and i7-4's allowing for processor upgrade in future. http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4489#sp

The i3-4330 processor is very decent (better than my own lol), and contains the best Intel HD onboard graphics (4600) with which he could play even more graphics-intensive games than he does at present, on low-medium settings. He could get a discrete graphics card later on, when it becomes necessary, for birthday or next Xmas. This vid shows how decent the HD4600 is -
. And this one shows how it handles Minecraft -
.

4GB 1333MHz RAM will be more than enough for his needs right now and the 8-8-8-24 timings are very decent. Can always add another 4GB in future, and both mobo and processor are dual channel memory based.

B-grade 500GB hard drive as he'll probably want an SSD at some point for his OS, so little point in spending too much on a HDD right now?

The power supply is covered by: "3-Year OCZ PowerSwap Warranty, no endless return-for-repair loops", which is great. And 500W, while overkill right now, will provide more options in the future when he would like/need a discrete graphics card.

If you check with OcUK to find out why the Ilyama 22" monitor is B-grade and all checks out, you could be onto a winner, as it's a great price with HDMI (digital video and audio) port to connect to mobo HDMI port, and even has speakers to provide him with sound till he gets some headphones or proper speakers for another birthday/Xmas.

You can knock £20 off the cost and stay under budget if you absolutely have to, by swapping the i3-4330 for an i3-4130 - http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CP-492-IN&groupid=701&catid=6&subcat=567 . The graphics take a little hit (HD4400) but not much.

The case fans would probably run on 12v/full speed, so you could throw in one of these 7v adapter cables if you like, to use in case the fans are too noisy - http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CM-107-BX

CM-107-BX_42787_350.jpg


And this lighting (again, optional) would really bring that windowed chassis to life and make your brother's day? Available in different colours - http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CM-054-BX

CM-054-BX_42589_350.jpg
 
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For this money, i'd say its a consideration.

YOUR BASKET
1 x AMD A10-6800K Black Edition 4.10GHz (Socket FM2) APU Richland Quad Core Processor (AD680KWOHLBOX) £107.99
1 x **B Grade** IIyama Prolite E2273HDS 22" Widescreen LED Monitor - Black £74.99
1 x TeamGroup Xtreem LV 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-19200C10 2400MHz Dual Channel Memory Kit (TXD38G2400HC10QDC01) £71.99
1 x Microsoft Windows 8.1 64-Bit DVD - OEM (WN7-00614) £71.99
1 x Sapphire PURE Platinum A85XT AMD A85X Chipset (Socket FM2) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £68.99
1 x Toshiba (7K1000.D) 500GB SATA 6GB/s 32MB Cache - OEM (DT01ACA050) HDD £41.99
1 x Corsair Builder Series CX 430W V2 '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply (CP-9020046-UK) £39.95
1 x BitFenix Merc Alpha Gaming Case - Black £32.99
1 x LiteOn IHAS124-14 24x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £11.99
Total : £537.85 (includes shipping : £12.50).



Although to be perfectly honest, I could do better for a little more.

YOUR BASKET
1 x Intel Core i3-3220 3.30GHz (Ivybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor (77W) - Retail £89.99
1 x **B Grade** IIyama Prolite E2273HDS 22" Widescreen LED Monitor - Black £74.99
1 x Microsoft Windows 8.1 64-Bit DVD - OEM (WN7-00614) £71.99
1 x MSI HD 7770 GHz Edition 1024MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £71.99
1 x TeamGroup Elite Black 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C11 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (TED38GM1600HC11DC01) £59.99
1 x Toshiba (7K1000.D) 500GB SATA 6GB/s 32MB Cache - OEM (DT01ACA050) HDD £41.99
1 x Corsair Builder Series CX 430W V2 '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply (CP-9020046-UK) £39.95
1 x **B Grade** Gigabyte Z68AP-D3 Intel Z68 (Socket 1155) DDR3 (MB-364-GI) £35
1 x BitFenix Merc Alpha Gaming Case - Black £32.99
1 x LiteOn IHAS124-14 24x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £11.99
Total : £545.86 (includes shipping : £12.50).



Apologies for being a touch over budget on each, i'll work on it, but this is what ive got so far. :)

Option number 2 would allow for you to sell the i3 and get a used i5 further down the line, as well as selling the GPU and getting a better one further down the line. The Richland option is a bit of a dead end. (unless you wanted to try hybrid crossfire, but I hear it isn't as good as its made out to be.)

The previously recommended build is a decent way to get a build which uses new tech, but without the dedicated GPU or APU it will be a bit weak-sauce for gaming. I'd get the CX430 in the place of the OCZ though. I have had the OCZ in a build in the past and it is decent, but I wouldnt want to use it with a Haswell build. The quality just isnt there.

Personally I would buy used parts for the most part, but I appreciate that it isnt always a reasonable option.
 
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would i be better off going with amd richland build though

You can get a bit more power from it straightaway (that your brother won't need right now) but there are trade-offs, and Intel stuff tends to last longer.

Wait till someone (Reaper maybe) puts forward Richland specs for you, and compare. I would have told you to wait for that anyway, had you said you wanted the Haswell, because I was also asking him (Reaper) what he thought.

Edit: There we go, Acme posted while I was writing this reply lol.
 
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Watch out for B-grade motherboards though, as some may have cables missing.

"Our B-graded stock may have missing accessories and do not include any game vouchers or other promotional items."

Better make sure what it does/doesn't have by talking to OcUK staff before ordering one of those.
 
Indeed. You can usually ask in the customer service section about that. I just make sure it has the I/O shield, not fussed about the rest. :)
 
Best I can do with £500, and you would have to run linux. Dota, minecraft and terraria all work in linux anyway.

Or keep using free windows 7 two month trial - untill you find a cheap key or whatever.

YOUR BASKET
1 x BenQ G2250 22" Widescreen LCD Monitor - Black £99.95
1 x Gigabyte G1.Sniper A88X AMD A88X Chipset (Socket FM2+) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £89.99
1 x Patriot Viper "Black Mamba" Generation 3 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (PV38G160C9K) £65.99
1 x MSI HD 6670 2048MB GDDR3 PCI-Express Graphics Card £61.99
1 x Seasonic S12II 430W '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply £49.99
1 x Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM 1TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST1000DM003) HDD £47.99
1 x AMD A6-5400K Black Edition 3.60GHz (Socket FM2) APU Trinity Dual Core Processor (AD540KOKHJBOX) £47.99
1 x Xigmatek Asgard III Windowed Gaming Case - Black £32.99
Total : £496.87 (includes shipping : FREE).



The monitor is better than the flickerfree multimedia version to sit close to, the flicker free one is very hazy close up.
 
Doing another Intel build below £500, including case with 3 fans and a fan controller, and no graphics card (sticking to my assertion that the integrated graphics of Haswell's are good enough for entry-level performance):

YOUR BASKET
1 x Intel Core i3-4130 3.40GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail £89.99
1 x Gigabyte Z87-HD3 Intel Z87 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £79.99
1 x **B Grade** IIyama Prolite E2273HDS 22" Widescreen LED Monitor - Black £74.99
1 x Microsoft Windows 8.1 64-Bit DVD - OEM (WN7-00614) £71.99
1 x Corsair Builder Series CX 430W V2 '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply (CP-9020046-UK) £39.95
1 x Kingston HyperX Blu 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (KHX1600C9AD3B1K2/4G) £39.95
1 x Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 250GB SATA 6Gb/s 16MB Cache - OEM (ST250DM000) HDD £39.95
1 x **B Grade** Bitfenix Raider Tower Case - Black £35
1 x OcUK 22x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £11.39
Total : £499.69 (includes shipping : £13.75).




"With Intel’s HD 4600 you can completely max out the quality settings for DOTA2 at 1080P. The GPU prowess of the HD 4600 should prove to be a godsend for hardcore MOBA gamers."

http://semiaccurate.com/2013/06/10/intels-hd-4600-graphics-another-review/

The i3-4130 has HD4400, which is only one level below the HD4600.
 
As it is a Christmas present, can you not ask some other family members to chip in. You can also use the Win 8.1 RTM for 90 days and then buy the upgrade with his Christmas money.
This would be a nice starter, with potential upgrade path.

YOUR BASKET
1 x MSI HD 7850 OC 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Cards £107.99
1 x AMD Piledriver FX-6 Six Core 6300 Black Edition 3.50GHz (Socket AM3+) Processor - Retail £89.99
1 x Asus M5A97 EVO R2.0 AMD 970 (Socket AM3+) DDR3 Motherboard £79.99
1 x **B Grade** IIyama Prolite E2273HDS 22" Widescreen LED Monitor - Black £74.99
1 x Corsair Builder Series CX 500W V2 '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply (CP-9020047-UK) £49.99
1 x Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM 1TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST1000DM003) HDD £47.99
1 x Xigmatek Pantheon Mid Tower Case - Black £39.95
1 x TeamGroup Elite 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C11 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (TED34GM1600HC11DC01) £32.99
Total : £540.37 (includes shipping : £13.75).

 
All those games are cross platform. This means you can skip windows, use Linux, and have a much more powerful set of hardware.

Best use an nvidia GPU on Linux though...
 
As it is a Christmas present, can you not ask some other family members to chip in. You can also use the Win 8.1 RTM for 90 days and then buy the upgrade with his Christmas money.
This would be a nice starter, with potential upgrade path.

YOUR BASKET
1 x MSI HD 7850 OC 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Cards £107.99
1 x AMD Piledriver FX-6 Six Core 6300 Black Edition 3.50GHz (Socket AM3+) Processor - Retail £89.99
1 x Asus M5A97 EVO R2.0 AMD 970 (Socket AM3+) DDR3 Motherboard £79.99
1 x **B Grade** IIyama Prolite E2273HDS 22" Widescreen LED Monitor - Black £74.99
1 x Corsair Builder Series CX 500W V2 '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply (CP-9020047-UK) £49.99
1 x Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM 1TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST1000DM003) HDD £47.99
1 x Xigmatek Pantheon Mid Tower Case - Black £39.95
1 x TeamGroup Elite 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C11 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (TED34GM1600HC11DC01) £32.99
Total : £540.37 (includes shipping : £13.75).



how did you manage to fit under £540?, i have been trying that for ages on a similiar build for £600 with mouse, keyboard, wireless card and headset and the best is £640
edit: seem is the ram...for some time i had hope to bring under the budget:(:(
 
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