£500 Upgrade. Help appreciated.

[gpuerrilla]

£500 Upgrade. Help appreciated.

Would like it to be pretty quiet... I probably won't be overclocking in the near future.

That is what the OP posted. Open to interpretation which obviously in Martini world is:

NOT overclocking - EVER.
Other people leave out crucial information.
AMD have expensive boards.
AMD use more power.
I have never owner an FX83X0.

 

[teppic]

The OP posted an AMD spec he was considering and wanted help. I provided a better one. Then the standard "Go Intel instead" post happens. He then asked about an FX-8320 spec on a higher budget, and I said it was good. Then he's told to go Intel again. Yet I'm the one apparently out to take over the world and kill orphans with AMD CPUs.

 

[gpuerrilla]

Wait a minute...

He (the OP) came here for advice, not to be labelled..

True.

I think Martini may dislike me just because I do not agree with everything he posts however in one thread he basically called me an AMD fanboy.. not that I am offended by such a remark.

Assuming we can all give "advice" then there is no need to label anyone.

 

[gpuerrilla]

Wait a minute...

He (the OP) came here for advice, not to be labelled..

True.

I think Martini may dislike me just because I do not agree with everything he posts however in one thread he basically called me an AMD fanboy.. not that I am offended by such a remark.

Assuming we can all give "advice" then there is no need to label anyone.

Apologies startledgiraffe if I have offended you or in some way shape or form could have been so inconsiderate. Do not take my advice as some have said here I am wrong.

OK lets move on...

 

[teppic]

True.

I think Martini may dislike me just because I do not agree with everything he posts however in one thread he basically called me an AMD fanboy.. not that I am offended by such a remark.

Assuming we can all give "advice" then there is no need to label anyone.

Martini's said I'm incapable of analysis because I often don't agree with him. I'm not sure what he bases this on since he doesn't know anything about me; I had a tech column in a PC magazine for nearly 10 years, and have published lots of analytical reviews. I know nothing of his credentials, perhaps he does put me to shame in comparison. I don't presume others know nothing though, and point scoring and being accused of such nonsense as trying to misrepresent facts is very tiresome.

 

[gpuerrilla]

He does seem to have his share of supporters (not naming names) but I'm a fair believer of the adage "Don't dish it out if you can't take it". Getting uppity over such things makes me chuckle.

 

[gpuerrilla]

Like i say i have nothing against AMD CPU's..

Its just when you say the 8320 can be on-par with the 4770k, what the OP (customer) hears is a £120 CPU can be just as good as a £280 CPU...

I just think your provide a skewed image, that is all..

Hmm nothing against AMD.. and then skewed images. The way I see it is you own an i5 and this teppic fella owns an i7. Try not to skew advice to what you own. Have you had the AMD system your talking of?

 

[startledgiraffe]

Sorry for causing such a commotion! Just kidding, debating is good always interesting to hear different opinions.

So it seems the intel would be better without overclocking and the amd with.

Which option would be quieter? I'm assuming the i5 as it would be using a stock cooler.

I'd like to point out I'm not against overclocking or will never do it. I had my e6600 at 3GHz but i reset it because I didn't like how noisy the fan was the whole time (freezer 7 pro I think). And no one has offended me whatsover I am very grateful for any and all advice.

 

[gpuerrilla]

Sorry for causing such a commotion! Just kidding, debating is good always interesting to hear different opinions.

So it seems the intel would be better without overclocking and the amd with.

Which option would be quieter? I'm assuming the i5 as it would be using a stock cooler.

No worries mate, I love discussing these things - I still learn nobodies perfect.

Intel is the better performer. I say the things I do because some are blinded by their preferences and forget about the budget.

Quieter well that is down to how quiet you want it, as you can always get a fan controller and apply lower voltage to case fans and some heatsinks are fanless if you want no noise.

As you wont be overclocking then you may want to look into that.

 

[teppic]

The stock cooler will be much noisier at load than a decent cooler.

The Intel CPU cannot be overclocked at all, the AMD one can be (with this cooler and board, 4.5GHz should be easy).

 

[Martini1991]

I shall retort:



Just mentioning this is called the "Overclockers" forums, if he chooses not to do so then just buy a pre-built machine as your losing flexibility and may as well get inferior components (ergo cheaper) as your not going to stress the rig.

This is totally painting a "false picture" as you put earlier, on I think he should not be on the forums in a general sense. I did think maybe teppic had the ability to rile you up but now I am leaning toward you just being awkward.

Either way - if he is not overclocking then there is less need for high calibre components.

The FX8320 needs a higher calibre board to not throttle at stock.
Then factor in quality of life, the AMD with a stock cooler is going to sound dreadful, the Intel stock cooler doesn't.

I'm really not be awkward, that would appear to be you and teppic.
We've got a guy who's not overclocking, and an i5 is in the budget and it's the better gamer.
So who's blinded by preference?

Do you completely ignore the very many times I'll agree with an FX6300 or an FX8320? In this case though, neither is the bad choice, but the i5 is better.

 

[Martini1991]

Not sure how a £144 i5 is cheaper than a £114 8320, but anyway.

The AMD spec was more expensive than the i5 one, unless I'm blind.

 

[fowler002]

Just take thereaperguys spec and be done with it, Microsoft offer 'trial' for windows 8(3 months I believe from what I've read on here) then when the trial period is coming to an end 'upgrade' to the full version.

 

[Martini1991]

Sorry for causing such a commotion! Just kidding, debating is good always interesting to hear different opinions.

So it seems the intel would be better without overclocking and the amd with.

Which option would be quieter? I'm assuming the i5 as it would be using a stock cooler.

I'd like to point out I'm not against overclocking or will never do it. I had my e6600 at 3GHz but i reset it because I didn't like how noisy the fan was the whole time (freezer 7 pro I think). And no one has offended me whatsover I am very grateful for any and all advice.

The thing is, because an Intel overclocking system costs more, when overclocking the AMD over the stock Intel stuff, the advantage goes to the AMD, overclocking against overclocking, Intel gains more, but costs more to set up.

 

[gpuerrilla]

If your not too fussed about squeezing the performance out of your components and quiet is the priority, purchasing passive equipment or quiet fans will alter your budget very slightly but you can really make a difference.

 

[startledgiraffe]

Any final thoughts on this?

YOUR BASKET
1 x AMD Piledriver FX-8 Eight Core 8320 Black Edition 3.50GHz (Socket AM3+) Processor - Retail £113.99
1 x Asus M5A97 EVO R2.0 AMD 970 (Socket AM3+) DDR3 Motherboard £86.99
1 x Samsung 120GB SSD 840 EVO SATA 6Gb/s Basic - (MZ-7TE120BW) £83.99
1 x Microsoft Windows 8 64-Bit DVD - OEM (WN7-00403) £79.99
1 x Antec High Current Gamer 520W '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply £59.99
1 x Avexir Core Blue Series 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Memory Kit (AVD3U16000904G-2CW) - Blue Light £55.99
1 x Corsair Carbide 200R Compact ATX Case - Black £49.99
Total : £543.53 (includes shipping : £10.50).




Think I've decided to go with AMD. Even though the stock i5 may be better for gaming I like the idea of having more control, having a locked CPU and a mobo not suitable for OCing makes me feel more restricted. Also this way I can keep it under budget if I don't get a CPU cooler.

I am planning on keeping it at stock speed then spending the money on a decent cooler next month before I overclock. Will I still be able to use my old freezer 7 pro until then? Trying to google just gives me results about the newer rev. 2.

 

[teppic]

Looks good to me. You can use the old cooler at stock if you've got replacement thermal paste. Bear in mind that buying a cooler separately means being hit for delivery again.

 

[fowler002]

I guess I'll go sit in the corner and talk to myself

 

[startledgiraffe]

Sorry I didn't realise that was a K model i5 that does kinda change things.

Think I'm gonna get this but order tomorrow as busy tonight sorry for wasting people's time trying to stick to the original budget.

YOUR BASKET
1 x Intel Core i5-4670K 3.40GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - OEM £173.99
1 x Gigabyte Z87-D3HP Intel Z87 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £104.99
1 x Samsung 120GB SSD 840 EVO SATA 6Gb/s Basic - (MZ-7TE120BW) £83.99
1 x Microsoft Windows 8 64-Bit DVD - OEM (WN7-00403) £79.99
1 x Antec High Current Gamer 520W '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply £59.99
1 x Avexir Core Blue Series 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Memory Kit (AVD3U16000904G-2CW) - Blue Light £55.99
1 x Corsair Carbide 200R Compact ATX Case - Black £49.99
1 x Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound (3.5g) £8.99
Total : £629.92 (includes shipping : £10.00).



Any ideas if the this week only offers on the mobo and RAM will still be available tomorrow?
Will the free cooler with the mobo be better than my freezer 7 pro?

 

[teppic]

The's a massive increase in cost for something that won't give much extra performance, and in some games less.

The weekly offers end Wednesday mornings.