£500ish for a friend.

MoridinUK

MoridinUK

MoridinUK

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I have a friend who wants a new pc, mostly for photos and desktop stuff but also light gaming.

He wants to run civ, minecraft and kerbal most but has this habit of connecting it to his enmourous HDMI tv so I'm sure he wants to game at 1080dpi.

He was going to buy this:
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Processor Information Quad-core Intel Core i5-4440 Processor 3.1GHz to 3.3GHz
AMD Radeon R5 235, 1GB
1TB hard drive
8GB Memory
Card Slot Information 7-in-1 card reader (MS, MS Pro, SD, SDHC, SDXC, MMC, MMC Plus)
Windows 8.1 (64 Bit)
Wi-Fi- 802.11b/g/n
for around £500

But I've been trying to push him a little more towards this:

Your basket
YOUR BASKET
1 x "Liberator X4" AMD FX-4 4300 @ 4.0GHz Turbo Nvidia GeForce Quad Core Gaming PC £238.01
- 1 x Kingston HyperX Genesis Grey 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (KHX1600C9D3X2K2/8GX) £59.99
- 1 x Microsoft Windows 8.1 64-Bit DVD - OEM (WN7-00614) £74.99
- 1 x 24 MONTH WARRANTY - COLLECT & RETURN £0.01
- 1 x Standard Build Systems - Dispatched within 7 working days £0.00
- 1 x No Sound Card Upgrade £0.00
- 1 x MSI GeForce GTX 750Ti OC 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card (N750Ti-2GD5/OC) £107.99
- 1 x No Second Hard Drive Option (ZERO Cost) £0.00
- 1 x Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM 1TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST1000DM003) HDD £42.98
Total : £533.57 (includes shipping : £8.00).



I thought this gave him a lot more options to branch out gaming wise, he is a bit obessed with only getting latest releases on his PS4 but I'd love for him to find some love for PC games..

Am I leading him astray? The other will be easy (store bought locally) if anything happens under warranty but I know OVerclockers have awesome support...
 
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No I'm seriously coming onto the OC forum to ask how best to advise my friend. I want him to buy from OC but I want to be sure I'm offering good advice.

I want to know whether you guys think the build I've put up is overkill for what he wants, or a much better deal than the horrible shop bought. Or if you have any better suggestions? I want to convince him to buy from here.

Alternativiely you can continue to be snarky. *shurg* but I do want to convince him that this site and forum offers better value, and better support than their competitors.
 
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foster grant said:
You're seriously coming on OcUK's forums and telling everyone about buying a PC elsewhere ?
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I didn't see that personally but he should remove the shop name..

MoridinUK said:
I have a friend who wants a new pc, mostly for photos and desktop stuff but also light gaming.

He wants to run civ, minecraft and kerbal most but has this habit of connecting it to his enmourous HDMI tv so I'm sure he wants to game at 1080dpi.

He was going to buy this:
Lenoco i5-4440 (3.1) 8gb, 1tb hdd, no dedicated gpu

But I've been trying to push him a little more towards this:

Your basket
"Liberator X4" AMD FX-4 4300 @ 4.0GHz Turbo Nvidia GeForce Quad Core Gaming PC "Liberator X4" AMD FX-4 4300 @ 4.0GHz Turbo Nvidia GeForce Quad Core Gaming PC £238.01
Options applied to the above product:
Kingston HyperX Genesis Grey 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (KHX1600C9D3X2K2/8GX) £59.99
Options applied to the above product:
Microsoft Windows 8.1 64-Bit DVD - OEM (WN7-00614) £74.99
Options applied to the above product:
24 MONTH WARRANTY - COLLECT & RETURN £0.01
MSI GeForce GTX 750Ti OC 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card (N750Ti-2GD5/OC) £107.99
Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM 1TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST1000DM003) HDD £42.98
Submit Sub Total : £436.64
Shipping : £8.00
Total (inc): £533.57

I thought this gave him a lot more options to branch out gaming wise, he is a bit obessed with only getting latest releases on his PS4 but I'd love for him to find some love for PC games..

Am I leading him astray? John Lewis will be easy if anything happens under warranty but I know OVerclockers have awesome support...
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I can't see the shop link but from the description I can tell what it is.

I think both of the options are of the mark. Combine the two and you'll have a decent system.

The 4300 is a poor CPU, if you're going PD you need atleast a 6300 for gaming. An Intel i5 would be better though.

You'd certainly need a GPU, even just to run Minecraft. THe GTX 750 is a great option.

Another alterative is the AMD APU's. A8-A10 would be a good choice. These have decent iGPU's and decent(ish) core performance.

:)
 
Doomedspeed said:
I didn't see that personally but he should remove the shop name..
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I've removed that and will replace the link 1 min.

There! I was mistaken it does have a small card. So you dont think either would do what he wants? He currently plays from a laptop, no idea of the spec though.
 
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YOUR BASKET
1 x "ForceBox Gamer" Intel Core i3 / i5 / i7 Nvidia GTX LAN Gaming PC £245.02
- 1 x MSI GeForce GTX 750Ti OC 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card (N750Ti-2GD5/OC) £107.99
- 1 x Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM 1TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST1000DM003) HDD £42.98
- 1 x Intel Core i5-4440 3.10GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail £131.99
- 1 x Microsoft Windows 8.1 64-Bit DVD - OEM (WN7-00614) £74.99
Total : £612.58 (includes shipping : £8.00).



I'm just not sure I can get him up to £600. I should ask what he has now, other than his laptop.

Gah forgot an opitcal drive, but I have a slim one in my old laptop I could give him... OR os this better value:

YOUR BASKET
1 x "Defender X6" AMD FX-6 6300 @ 4.1GHz Turbo AMD Radeon Six Core Gaming PC £249.02
- 1 x Sapphire Radeon R7 260X OC 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card (11222-06-20G) £95.99
- 1 x Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM 1TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST1000DM003) HDD £42.98
- 1 x Kingston HyperX Genesis Grey 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (KHX1600C9D3X2K2/8GX) £59.99
- 1 x AMD Piledriver FX-6 Six Core 6300 Black Edition 3.50GHz (Socket AM3+) Processor - Retail £83.99
- 1 x Microsoft Windows 8.1 64-Bit DVD - OEM (WN7-00614) £74.99
Total : £616.57 (includes shipping : £8.00).
 
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Those look decent, though this is lower priced, and I included an SSD you can omit if you feel he will not benefit from it.

YOUR BASKET
1 x OcUK Casual Gamer C30 AMD Richland Mid-Tower - Home PC Configurator £568.13
- AMD A8-6600K 3.90GHz (Socket FM2) APU Richland Quad Core Processor (AD660KWOHLBOX)
- BitFenix Comrade Midi-Tower - Black
- Standard Build Systems - Dispatched within 7 working days
- No Security Software
- No Office Software
- Game Controller Not Selected
- No Headset Option (Zero Cost)
- Speakers Not Selected
- Monitor Not Selected
- System Build Fan - Noiseblocker BlackSilent Pro Fan PLPS - 120mm PWM (EXNO-001)
- Mouse Not Selected
- Keyboard Not Selected
- OcUK Value AT/ATX "Kettle Plug" 2 Meter Mains Cable
- Case Mods Not Selected
- Asus USB-N13 300Mbps Wireless Adapter
- Microsoft Windows 8.1 64-Bit DVD - OEM (WN7-00614)
- SuperFlower Amazon 450W "80 Plus Bronze" Power Supply
- No Sound Card Upgrade
- OcUK 20x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM (temporarily out of stock)
- Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM 1TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST1000DM003) HDD
- Samsung 128GB SSD 840 PRO SATA 6Gb/s Basic - (MZ-7PD128BW)
- NO GRAPHICS CARD UPGRADE
- TeamGroup Vulcan RED 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-17100C11 2133MHz Dual Channel Kit (TLD38G2133HC11ADC01)
- Gigabyte F2A55M-HD2 AMD A55 Chipset (Socket FM2+) DDR3 Micro ATX Motherboard
- Raijintek Aidos Direct Contact CPU Cooler
Total : £586.73 (includes shipping : £15.50).

 
MoridinUK said:
No I'm seriously coming onto the OC forum to ask how best to advise my friend. I want him to buy from OC but I want to be sure I'm offering good advice.

I want to know whether you guys think the build I've put up is overkill for what he wants, or a much better deal than the horrible lenovo. Or if you have any better suggestions? I want to convince him to buy from here.

Alternativiely you can continue to be snarky. *shurg* but I do want to convince him that this site and forum offers better value, and better support than their competitors.
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If I offended or came across as impolite Moridin I apologize :)
 
No worries, It was a little naive of me to not obscure who and where, which I have fixed. But no I'd not come on here to talk about a purchase I was planing on making elsewhere.
 
for not much more than 500 quid (well £37 quid more, to be exact)
this is my 2 pence

YOUR BASKET
1 x Intel Core i5-4440 3.10GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail £131.99
1 x Sapphire Radeon R7 265 Dual-X 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £99.95
1 x Microsoft Windows 8.1 64-Bit DVD - OEM (WN7-00614) £74.99
1 x Seagate SSHD 7200RPM 3.5" 1TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST1000DX001) SSHD Hybrid Drive £58.99
1 x TeamGroup Vulcan ORANGE 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-19200C11 2400MHz Dual Channel Kit (TLAD38G2400HC11CDC01) £55.99
1 x Asus H81M-E Intel H81 (Socket 1150) DDR3 Micro ATX Motherboard £39.95
1 x SuperFlower Amazon 300W "80 Plus Bronze" Power Supply £29.99
1 x Zalman T2 Plus Mini-Tower USB 3.0 - Black £19.99
1 x LiteOn IHAS124-14 24x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £11.99
1 x OcUK Tech Labs Zaward OEM 120mm Golf Ball Fan £2.59
Total : £536.02 (includes shipping : £8.00).



core i5 cpu + r7 265
8gb ram
1tb hybrid sshd, which gives a very nice performance boost short of getting a ssd+hdd combo
all in a neat little matx case
os included

only problem is that the case is out of stock at the moment
 
MoridinUK said:
Now that works great, only thing in my head is lack of wireless but I have an old g dongle he can use, and will 300watt actually be enough?
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The gpu isn't very demanding , power wise. If it was me though, I'd pick up a builder series corsair 600w psu for an extra 20 quid. Will allow him to upgrade his gpu down the line.
 
yes. 300w is enough.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1127
scroll near to the bottom and you can see max power draws

if you want, get the 450w superflower amazon for a few quid quid more, that should be more than enough to power anything except top range gpus
i only specced the 300w psu because i know it'll be enough and more as a cost cutting exercise to get it as close to 500 as possible
 
tamzzy said:
for not much more than 500 quid (well £37 quid more, to be exact)
this is my 2 pence

YOUR BASKET
1 x Intel Core i5-4440 3.10GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail £131.99
1 x Sapphire Radeon R7 265 Dual-X 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £99.95
1 x Microsoft Windows 8.1 64-Bit DVD - OEM (WN7-00614) £74.99
1 x Seagate SSHD 7200RPM 3.5" 1TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST1000DX001) SSHD Hybrid Drive £58.99
1 x TeamGroup Vulcan ORANGE 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-19200C11 2400MHz Dual Channel Kit (TLAD38G2400HC11CDC01) £55.99
1 x Asus H81M-E Intel H81 (Socket 1150) DDR3 Micro ATX Motherboard £39.95
1 x SuperFlower Amazon 300W "80 Plus Bronze" Power Supply £29.99
1 x Zalman T2 Plus Mini-Tower USB 3.0 - Black £19.99
1 x LiteOn IHAS124-14 24x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £11.99
1 x OcUK Tech Labs Zaward OEM 120mm Golf Ball Fan £2.59
Total : £536.02 (includes shipping : £8.00).



core i5 cpu + r7 265
8gb ram
1tb hybrid sshd, which gives a very nice performance boost short of getting a ssd+hdd combo
all in a neat little matx case
os included

only problem is that the case is out of stock at the moment
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This is pretty much what I just ordered for him. Except that we swapped the PSU for the Superflower golden green 450w 80+ gold which is currently on offer..

I have some old arctic silver 5 hanging about, will that make a useful difference on the stock cooler we'll be using?
 
MoridinUK said:
This is pretty much what I just ordered for him. Except that we swapped the PSU for the Superflower golden green 450w 80+ gold which is currently on offer..

I have some old arctic silver 5 hanging about, will that make a useful difference on the stock cooler we'll be using?
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A few degrees it is only a stock cooler after all, you get some pretty good coolers for under 20 quid now just make sure he has the install height required :)
 
WE ain't overclocking so unless it shows heat as a problem when I stress it a bit (which is more than he'll ever do to it) then I don't think he'll want to spend even £20 more.. :(
 
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