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5070 = 4090 for 499.

I was telling a colleague to wise up only a few weeks ago. He genuinely thought the 5090 was going to be twice as fast as a 4090. I told him history showed to expect about 50%, or 60% at best. I may have high balled it :D
 
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looking at the raw specs, i doubt the 5070 will be much faster than the 4070 super, 5-10% at best.
i wait for reviews to prove me right or make me a laughing stock :cry:
 
My son came in yesterday and said "Dad you seen this 5070 its as fast as a 4090 for the fraction of a price...."
Then I looked into it.
Faster only using this new next gen frame generation thing and only then Devs have the put to code into their game wont be potentially faster unless this is done.
Read a few of the articles specs wise its not possible 5070 v 4090.

More Nvidia marketing spin to suck people in to part with their cash.

Speaking of the 5090 already websites out there telling you how to beat the scalpers makes me laugh.
 
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varkanoid said:
My son came in yesterday and said "Dad you seen this 5070 its as fast as a 4090 for the fraction of a price...."
Then I looked into it.
Faster only using this new next gen frame generation thing and only then Devs have the put to code into their game wont be potentially faster unless this is done.
Read a few of the articles specs wise its not possible 5070 v 4090.

More Nvidia marketing spin to suck people in to part with their cash.

Speaking of the 5090 already websites out there telling you how to beat the scalpers makes me laugh.
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varkanoid said:
My son came in yesterday and said "Dad you seen this 5070 its as fast as a 4090 for the fraction of a price...."
Then I looked into it.
Faster only using this new next gen frame generation thing and only then Devs have the put to code into their game wont be potentially faster unless this is done.
Read a few of the articles specs wise its not possible 5070 v 4090.

More Nvidia marketing spin to suck people in to part with their cash.

Speaking of the 5090 already websites out there telling you how to beat the scalpers makes me laugh.
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The whole situation is fishy, Nvidia have given no solid indication of how these GPUs actually perform. Every benchmark with the exception of Far Cry 6 was done with 4x frame generation on. Far Cry 6 is also a game where Nvidia GPUs underperform, so it's possible that their improvement in that game is actually disproportionate to other games.
 
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Remember the good old days when 3070 = 2080 Ti was actually true.
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True until new/old games used more than 8GB. The 2080Ti with 11GB ended up winning that battle and even beating the 3080 with 10GB in some games that used more than 10GB VRAM.

That was also another shameful statement to me from Nvidia.
 
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Killer7xx said:
The whole situation is fishy, Nvidia have given no solid indication of how these GPUs actually perform. Every benchmark with the exception of Far Cry 6 was done with 4x frame generation on. Far Cry 6 is also a game where Nvidia GPUs underperform, so it's possible that their improvement in that game is actually disproportionate to other games.
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Well, it will be interesting to see once reviews come out.

Perhaps it won't be worth upgrading from a 4xxx series this gen anyway, unless you plan on using frame generation heavily.

To be honest, i'm on a 4070 currently and play at 1440p with no RT on usually, so really, i don't need a great deal more horsepower anyway. It copes pretty well with everything thrown at it so far.
 
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Jono8 said:
Well, it will be interesting to see once reviews come out.

Perhaps it won't be worth upgrading from a 4xxx series this gen anyway, unless you plan on using frame generation heavily.

To be honest, i'm on a 4070 currently and play at 1440p with no RT on usually, so really, i don't need a great deal more horsepower anyway. It copes pretty well with everything thrown at it so far.
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4070 user here too, play mostly racing sims, happy to wait this new gen out, ATM anyway.
 
roddypoddy said:
4070 user here too, play mostly racing sims, happy to wait this new gen out, ATM anyway.
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Yeh. The only thing i'd maybe consider is a 5070Ti if it was on offer/had a discount code on some place in the future. At least with that i'd get some extra vram and probably a reasonable increase in raster performance. A 5070 probably would not be worth it, and i wouldnt pay much more than £700 for a gpu anyway.
 
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Jono8 said:
Yeh. The only thing i'd maybe consider is a 5070Ti if it was on offer/had a discount code on some place in the future. At least with that i'd get some extra vram and probably a reasonable increase in raster performance. A 5070 probably would not be worth it, and i wouldnt pay much more than £700 for a gpu anyway.
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well its not really targeted at current 4070 users but people like me who are on nearly 4 year old 6700xt cards even if its only 10% faster than a 4070 super it now hits a performance gain worth paying for

but it will be interesting to see how everything stands once the 1440p benchmarks start to roll out especially if the 40series drops in price
 
nzaptx said:
Don't buy the marketing nonsense. They make this statement when considering DLSS4/frame gen.
However the real world is different; very few game actually implement these features properly, frame gen has a poor track record in recent games with sometimes giving games a "waxy" look as well as latency/input issues, some games outright crash or don't work at all with frame gen enabled.
In actual specifications it is ~40% above a 4070 which put its slightly above a 4070ti super and below a 4080, which is pretty sad. I think the 5070ti is the proper xx70 card and the 5070 exists only to try and upsell/price anchor mainstream consumers to the higher $749 price band.

We already know 12GB is not enough for 1440p games /w ray tracing, so these mainstream GPUs are improving less and less hardware wise and try to make up for it with the software features like DLSS to make it seem better than it actually is.
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Have you seen the specs? The 5070 only has 200 more cuda cores than a 4070 and about 1000 less than a 4070 super it also has a lower boost clock, the extra bandwidth from GDDR7 should give it a bit more performance at higher resolutions but realistically I don’t think this card will be much faster than a 4070 super.
 
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Spoke to an average uninformed gamer at work. He was already quoting this as fact, he looked a bit disappointed when I pointed out it was all Nvidia marketing guff!
 
Jono8 said:
Yeh. The only thing i'd maybe consider is a 5070Ti if it was on offer/had a discount code on some place in the future. At least with that i'd get some extra vram and probably a reasonable increase in raster performance. A 5070 probably would not be worth it, and i wouldnt pay much more than £700 for a gpu anyway.
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The 5070 Ti does look like it could be the sweet spot in the range. Very close specs to the 5080, while being a few hundred quid cheaper.
 
I was hoping to upgrade my 6950 red devil, but in all honesty, with RT being the exception - I'm not sweating too much at 1440p. If the raster performance on the 5070ti is a huge upgrade over the 6950, then I'll possibly bite - but for now it's a no from me.
 
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