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5070 vs 9070XT

freak2002

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Hi All

Sure I wont be the first to ask and I have looked around many comparison sites. Its great to have a choice I know, I am trying to figure out where I should be targeting my efforts and funds for a new GFX card to go in a new build, both are a huge upgrade from my AMD 570. New build is 7800X3D/64gb/B650. Playing on a 27" 1440p@144Hz with Freesync. I play a whole heap of different games, looking forward to Space Marine 2, Baldurs Gate 3 and Stalker 2 which I have not bought yet. Then Elder Scrolls 6 and Fallout 5 in the future.

Looking at budget I was originally gonna pull the trigger on a 5070, however the 9070XT has thrown a spanner at me! I was originally looking at Team Green as I have had Red for a few years and although I have never seen the impact of DLSS I believe it can do a better job than the ADM Version?

The motherboard I am looking at is PCI-E Gen 4 so the Gen 5 on the Nvidia is not a factor (unless its worth looking for a Gen 5??!).

Does the fact I am playing on 1440p mean the Extra RAM in the 9070 doesn't matter? But then if that doesn't matter then maybe DLSS doesn't either?!

Obviously the price difference is currently around £130 (for the cheapest of either one), is the 9070XT worth it for the extra ££ or am I over thinking it because either is going to run absolutely fine?

Thanks for any advice/assistance.
 
The 9070XT easily.I have one and FSR4 is better than DLSS3 at least,so upscaling quality won't be a problem,plus the extra performance and VRAM makes it a much better buy imo

Edit: the cheapest 5070 I have seen is £580 and the Sapphire Pulse was £650 on here the other day,so that's only a £70 difference
 
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There's only around 3-5% difference in performance on a 5090 when running PCI-E Gen 3 vs Gen 5, I'd not worry about going with a Gen 4 board.

As for the 9070XT, it's a good step up from the 5070 and trades blows with the 5070ti, it sometimes even beats out the 5080. DLSS can be nice to have and is superior to FSR in some respects (especially FSR3.1), but FSR4 with the new 9070 cards is a big step up for upscaling and the additional VRAM will absolutely help. I run into issues with 12gb at 1440P at times, although it admittedly depends on what you play.

The 5070's for the price are terrible cards imo.
 
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Cheapest in stock 5070 I can see from a quick look is £630. You will be able to get a 9070xt for a very similar price depending on the model this week more than likely.
FSR4 is near enough as good as DLSS in most cases, can be added into DLSS games with Optiscaler as well.
I wouldn't pay that kind of money for a 12gb card. The 5070 is arguably the worst card of Nvidias arguably worst generation. This is a historically bad time to switch :)
 
12gb isn't enough I've seen screenshots of vram going above 12gb for indy Jones and stalker

9070xt is slightly behind 5070ti, both are 16gb

Not sure how 5070 compares in FPS but vram difference is enough for consideration.
 
Gray2233 said:
There's only around 3-5% difference in performance on a 5090 when running PCI-E Gen 3 vs Gen 5, I'd not worry about going with a Gen 4 board.

As for the 9070XT, it's a good step up from the 5070 and trades blows with the 5070ti, it sometimes even beats out the 5080. DLSS can be nice to have and is superior to FSR in some respects (especially FSR3.1), but FSR4 with the new 9070 cards is a big step up for upscaling and the additional VRAM will absolutely help. I run into issues with 12gb at 1440P at times, although it admittedly depends on what you play.

The 5070's for the price are terrible cards imo.
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Thanks for the insight. Is FSR upgraded in software (ie as time goes on it will get better on the same hardware), or will upgrades have a specific hardware requirement?

I heard that about the 5070 but everything is a huge bump for me so in comparison to other cards its not a huge jump but for me it will be!
 
Gray2233 said:
It frankly should have been the 5060, but that was the case with the 4070 too.
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You could argue it should be the 5050 if you look at the whole stack... It's bad however you look at it.

To be clear, I don't think 12gb isn't enough right now for 99% of games now. But we're getting to the point where it will be an issue if you plan on keeping your card for longer than the next console generation.
 
Bidley said:
You could argue it should be the 5050 if you look at the whole stack... It's bad however you look at it.

To be clear, I don't think 12gb isn't enough right now for 99% of games now. But we're getting to the point where it will be an issue if you plan on keeping your card for longer than the next console generation.
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Certainly not at that price point

Should be fine if 1080p, and £200 GPU. But at what £600m
 
freak2002 said:
Thanks for the insight. Is FSR upgraded in software (ie as time goes on it will get better on the same hardware), or will upgrades have a specific hardware requirement?

I heard that about the 5070 but everything is a huge bump for me so in comparison to other cards its not a huge jump but for me it will be!
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FSR 3.1 and under was a purely software implementation, meaning any GPU could use it, but it looked like absolute poo compared to DLSS in my opinion.

FSR 4 is a hardware/ai implementation that's limited to the 9070 cards and whatever AMD launches after them, it's much more similar to the way Nvidia does DLSS and is far superior to prior FSR iterations to the point I'll be happy to go with AMD cards in the future. One of my main reasons for going Nvidia in the past was the increasing necessity for upscaling in games and disliking older FSR.
 
freak2002 said:
Thanks for the insight. Is FSR upgraded in software (ie as time goes on it will get better on the same hardware), or will upgrades have a specific hardware requirement?

I heard that about the 5070 but everything is a huge bump for me so in comparison to other cards its not a huge jump but for me it will be!
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It's a toggle in the Adrenaline app that you enable that automatically uses FSR4 on games that use FSR 3.1,so I would imagine so
 
hornetstinger said:
12gb isn't enough I've seen screenshots of vram going above 12gb for indy Jones and stalker

9070xt is slightly behind 5070ti, both are 16gb

Not sure how 5070 compares in FPS but vram difference is enough for consideration.
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12GB is enough at 1440p, it's 4k or maybe 3440UW where you'd question it. Screenshots of games "using" more than that in VRAM don't tell the whole story. There's a difference between how much is allocated and how much is needed to run without VRAM hitching.

Still, the right choice here is the 9070XT over the standard 5070.
 
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