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5090 game performance on par with 4090.

TheRealDeal said:
What was the process in thinking when you got this system. 5090 it is with a 14700k but now am skint so let's get some cheap stuff and hope it goes well.
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I built the pc over a year ago. It’s a GPU upgrade not a full build. What cheap stuff are you talking about? Apart form the motherboard which is a Gigabyte b760 Gaming x ax, nothing was cheap.
 
Clarence Boddicker said:
I built the pc over a year ago. It’s a GPU upgrade not a full build. What cheap stuff are you talking about? Apart form the motherboard which is a Gigabyte b760 Gaming x ax, nothing was cheap.
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I was joking a little but Ram as well. Intel chips do well with fast memory. I just think you went a bit top heavy with a 5090 looking at the rest of the spec. I am a believer in having a balanced system when first built. If I am going 5090 my PC is going to have an x3d chip, fast Ram, great cooling, best m.2. No point in blazing over 2k if you don't back it up with top level components all around.

At 4k though unless you are playing really intensive cpu heavy games you shouldn't be seeing that much of a difference. If you haven't already done it go for a fresh install of windows.
 
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Just had a very quick play around with e-cores disabled and no difference in performance. Scored roughly the same in Steel Nomad and didn’t notice any difference in game fps either.


One thing that I didn’t mention is that I’ve got 3 NVMe drives fitted, one with the os on and the other two have got games and media on.

Ive read that on some boards using extra ssd’s can cut the lanes on top slot in half. My 7800 xt definitely wasn’t affected but just wondering if Maybe it’s affecting this one?

I’m not really sure how to interpret this from the manual if anyone could help out?

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Clarence Boddicker said:
Ive read that on some boards using extra ssd’s can cut the lanes on top slot in half. My 7800 xt definitely wasn’t affected but just wondering if Maybe it’s affecting this one?
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No, there's no meaningful impact on a 5090, certainly not anything like what you have reported. I don't think your motherboard shares any GPU lanes anyway, for 13th-14th gen that's mainly Z boards with PCI-E 5.0 M.2 slots.
 
Rogueywon said:
That the benchmark scores are fine while games aren't suggests to me we're in the realm of "Windows Wankery". I'd echo the suggestion on the last page of trying the card on a fresh Windows install.
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Yeah I was hoping to avoid doing it but I think Ill try that next.
ljt said:
Are all these games launched via Steam by any chance?
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Yes
 
Clarence Boddicker said:
Yeah I was hoping to avoid doing it but I think Ill try that next.

Yes
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Could be the steam shader cache needs clearing going from AMD to Nvidia. (It's worth a shot before trying a Windows Re-install anyway)

It's normally located under /Steam(or SteamLibrary)/steamapps/shadercache Make sure Steam is closed, then delete all the subfolders in that "shadercache" folder. The games will then re-compile the shaders for your new GPU when you run them next time.
 
Clarence Boddicker said:
Yeah I was hoping to avoid doing it but I think Ill try that next.

Yes
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It’s dead simple just press windows key and type ‘reset’ and select ‘Reset this PC’ then just use the download option. It even reinstalls basic drivers but if missing anything then just grab them from motherboard website and off you go.

If you want to do a full back to square one reinstall, then you can do it via a USB stick and delete all your old partitions and go again. Mine gets funky using the front USB sockets so plug it into the rear ones to save you potentially having that problem.

I generally go:

1) Chipset
2) GPU
3) Ethernet
4) Wifi
5) Bluetooth
6) Anything else
7) Windows update

Then you’re good to start installing Steam, mouse/keyboard software, RGB software etc etc. I have gigabit internet and I reset mine about 30 times when I built it new with my old 3080 as was having horrendous issues with GPU CTD so kept trying new things on a fresh install and in the end it was rubbish nvidia drivers :D. Takes a couple of hours I’d say.
 
Clarence Boddicker said:
Gigabyte
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If you have it installed uninstall Gigabyte Control Centre - sadly required to do some things but it is a buggy, bloated, telemetry loaded, POS which I've found significantly reducing performance in games before (for example on some setups games like Hogwarts Legacy take a 20% hit having it running), I'd also disable/uninstall any RGB software and if running disable the nVidia App overlay as with certain things running like filters it will reduce performance or conflict with other things reducing performance.
 
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Rusty0611 said:
It’s dead simple just press windows key and type ‘reset’ and select ‘Reset this PC’ then just use the download option. It even reinstalls basic drivers but if missing anything then just grab them from motherboard website and off you go.

If you want to do a full back to square one reinstall, then you can do it via a USB stick and delete all your old partitions and go again. Mine gets funky using the front USB sockets so plug it into the rear ones to save you potentially having that problem.
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Ok thanks, I wasnt aware of the PC reset, I’ll give that a go as it was the usb method and the hassle of having to remove the gpu to get to and remove the other ssd’s, and also trying to bypass the microsoft account again putting me off.



Rroff said:
If you have it installed uninstall Gigabyte Control Centre - sadly required to do some things but it is a buggy, bloated, telemetry loaded, POS which I've found significantly reducing performance in games before (for example on some setups games like Hogwarts Legacy take a 20% hit having it running), I'd also disable/uninstall any RGB software and if running disable the nVidia App overlay as with certain things running like filters it will reduce performance or conflict with other things reducing performance.
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I uninstalled GCC quite soon after building the pc, I can’t remember what but it was causing some sort of issue so I got rid of it. I don’t have any RGB software either. The last bit of 3rd party software I downloaded was for some headphones and that caused some issues so I’ve tried to avoid anything that I don’t need since.

I’ve got faster RAM coming and I’ll do a windows reset, hopefully that fixes it. Won’t hold my breath though.
 
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Clarence Boddicker said:
Ok thanks, I wasnt aware of the PC reset, I’ll give that a go as it was the usb method and the hassle of having to remove the gpu to get to and remove the other ssd’s, and also trying to bypass the microsoft account again putting me off.





I uninstalled GCC quite soon after building the pc, I can’t remember what but it was causing some sort of issue so I got rid of it. I don’t have any RGB software either. The last bit of 3rd party software I downloaded was for some headphones and that caused some issues so I’ve tried to avoid anything that I don’t need since.

I’ve got faster RAM coming and I’ll do a windows reset, hopefully that fixes it. Won’t hold my breath though.
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Did you try the steam shader cache first to see if it helped?
 
It may have been covered already but get MSI Afterburner installed, make sure GPU + CPU usage / frequency is enabled in the OSD and run some canned gaming benchmarks*. Post some data from the canned benchmarks to make them comparable for others, make sure ultra everything settings wise to load the GPU and include your general observations of the MSI AB usage. At 4k you should generally see a consist 99/100% GPU usage unless it's not a demanding game or your on a 60Hz display with V-Sync enabled.

*Things like Cyberpunk, Far Cry series, Tomb Raider, Dirty Rally games but there are plenty more
 
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