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54/56 idle temps? WTF!!

harris1986

harris1986

harris1986

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ok guys i noticed i was having some issues in games where i was getting little stutters, i checked my temps and my cpu (at stock) was idling pretty high in the early 50's, had a spring clean of my case and reseat of my heat sinc (with new as5 applied) and still getting high temps.

a quick 5min gameing session and this is what coretemp recorded does it look right?
Time & Date CPU Temperature Low temp. High temp. Core load
14:36:45 07/06/08 CPU#0 (Core#0): 56 56 56 5 2400.00
14:36:45 07/06/08 CPU#0 (Core#1): 54 54 54 3 2400.00
14:36:46 07/06/08 CPU#0 (Core#0): 56 56 56 2 2400.00
14:36:46 07/06/08 CPU#0 (Core#1): 54 54 54 2 2400.00
14:36:47 07/06/08 CPU#0 (Core#0): 56 56 56 0 2400.00
14:36:47 07/06/08 CPU#0 (Core#1): 54 54 54 3 2400.00
14:36:48 07/06/08 CPU#0 (Core#0): 56 56 56 0 2400.00
14:36:48 07/06/08 CPU#0 (Core#1): 54 54 54 2 2400.00
14:36:49 07/06/08 CPU#0 (Core#0): 56 56 56 2 2400.00
14:36:49 07/06/08 CPU#0 (Core#1): 54 54 54 0 2400.00
14:36:50 07/06/08 CPU#0 (Core#0): 56 56 56 8 2400.00
14:36:50 07/06/08 CPU#0 (Core#1): 55 54 55 26 2400.00
14:36:51 07/06/08 CPU#0 (Core#0): 56 56 56 14 2400.00
14:36:51 07/06/08 CPU#0 (Core#1): 54 54 55 28 2400.00
14:36:52 07/06/08 CPU#0 (Core#0): 59 56 59 51 2400.00
14:36:52 07/06/08 CPU#0 (Core#1): 56 54 56 75 2400.00
14:36:53 07/06/08 CPU#0 (Core#0): 59 56 59 80 2400.00
14:36:53 07/06/08 CPU#0 (Core#1): 55 54 56 62 2400.00
14:36:54 07/06/08 CPU#0 (Core#0): 58 56 59 55 2400.00
14:36:54 07/06/08 CPU#0 (Core#1): 55 54 56 29 2400.00
14:36:55 07/06/08 CPU#0 (Core#0): 58 56 59 91 2400.00
14:36:55 07/06/08 CPU#0 (Core#1): 57 54 57 74 2400.00
14:36:56 07/06/08 CPU#0 (Core#0): 58 56 59 98 2400.00
 
While your idles are unusually high, your load temps only appear to increase the temps on core 0/1 to 59, which is well within tolerance. Not sure why your idles are so high though, mine's sitting at around 45 degrees idle, with summer temperatures and cooling set to "quiet". I have my system set to keep fans running on low until cpu hits 65 degrees, and still have 100% stability, and no stuttering.

Perhaps check the temps on your GPU, if its roasting away just under the cpu, it could be raising your case ambient temperatures.
 
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CPU Load 98%. The game your playing is probably threaded, as both cores are getting a fair load at times although not all the time but thats normal games are quite hard to distribute cpu load evenly between cores.

14:36:54 07/06/08 CPU#0 (Core#0): 58 56 59 55 2400.00
14:36:54 07/06/08 CPU#0 (Core#1): 55 54 56 29 2400.00

Here Core0 is mildly loaded, and Core1 is lightly loaded.

14:36:55 07/06/08 CPU#0 (Core#0): 58 56 59 91 2400.00
14:36:55 07/06/08 CPU#0 (Core#1): 57 54 57 74 2400.00

But here both core are busy working.

Dont worry about the load though, many games have loops in them which are designed to take up to 100% of a core, the graphics rendering engines often run in a non stop loop for example.
 
well seeing as the game i'm playing is only counter-strike 1.6 in a 800x600 resolution i can't see as my cpu/4gb of ram and a 8800gts640mb should be running at 98% surely?
 
I would advise a nice and throught scan ;-).
Looks like something is eating your CPU :P.

59 load on non OCed CPU is definitely too much as well.
And CS 1.6 shouldnt take even 40% of the CPU load.

Check BIOS temps and what cooler have you got ?
 
harris1986 said:
well seeing as the game i'm playing is only counter-strike 1.6 in a 800x600 resolution i can't see as my cpu/4gb of ram and a 8800gts640mb should be running at 98% surely?
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98% on one core, yes absolutely, as the graphics engine will be looping and eating close to 100% of 1 core, while the other core remains idle. With a dual core system the "busy" thread can be moved between cores, which is probably enough to explain why sometimes the second core looks busy.

Complexity of a program isnt the only factor for cpu load. The quality of the code is important too. Even the most simple program can use 100% cpu load. (10 goto 10) in basic would be a good example of a cpu eating loop.

Older games just keep increasing FPS, especially if you have vsync disabled. Some games engines will start to idle if you have vsync enabled, as they then go into idle once the 60fps has been reached (assuming 60hz monitor). Doom3 limits to 60fps except in benchmark mode, and as soon as you hit that, the cpu idles.
 
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Use orthos or Prime 95 and use CPU small FFT's to work the processor and get those temps up, need to know the min / max on both cores.

I generally like to keep my load temps under 80 degrees, my idle temp on the cpu is about 60. I have the P182 case and I like it quiet. Though there is good airflow, just not fast airflow.
 
42c seems ok considering your room temp is not too low and your airflow/cooling is not best ;).

If you have the possibility, try the CPU in different PC, maybe it's motherboard sensors that are *****ed.

Try overclocking your CPU a bit and see if the temps move much higher.
 
think the problem regarding lockups and stutters in games could be gfx related as i played source and my fps was constant 99 then dropped to 40-60 and seemed to be struggling.
 
Just as a little update, i seem to have fixed the issue with fps drops and stutters in game. The problem has stemmed back to my 36gb raptor seems it's just struggling, I installed the game onto my 250gb seagate and all is fine :) which is good news just means that i'm going to have to buy a new hard drive lol.
 
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