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560Ti help please

Apem

Apem

Apem

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Hi guys,

I installed my new MSI 560Ti Frozr last night and ever since ive been getting some BSOD's but what happens all the time is the pc crashes in any game I play from BF2, BF3 and EQ2. What happens is the signal seems to stop from the gpu to the monitor and my screen just goes blank and the pc keeps running. It has also bsod twice while trying to type this. I didnt us the drivers from the disk I used the BF3 beta driver from the Nvidia site but originaly I tried the released driver from nvidia and that did the same thing. Ive looked at Afterburner and the temps seem fine its ilding at about 31c.

I am really stuck guys as I have had no joy with this new build I have had to RMA the cpu as it arrived damaged and my new H60 cooler also had to go back under RMA, I hope the GPU isnt borked too that would put the icing on the cake really.

Im running the 560Ti on my old PC which is a Q6600, X38 mobo and 8gb of ddr II ram as Im still waiting for my new cpu and cooler to come back from RMA.
 
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Apem said:
Hi guys,

I installed my new MSI 560Ti Frozr last night and ever since ive been getting some BSOD's but what happens all the time is the pc crashes in any game I play from BF2, BF3 and EQ2. What happens is the signal seems to stop from the gpu to the monitor and my screen just goes blank and the pc keeps running. It has also bsod twice while trying to type this. I didnt us the drivers from the disk I used the BF3 beta driver from the Nvidia site but originaly I tried the released driver from nvidia and that did the same thing. Ive looked at Afterburner and the temps seem fine its ilding at about 31c.

I am really stuck guys as I have had no joy with this new build I have had to RMA the cpu as it arrived damaged and my new H60 cooler also had to go back under RMA, I hope the GPU isnt borked too that would put the icing on the cake really.
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Sound like the symptoms of unstable overclock. If I remember correctly, the MSI GTX560Ti Twin FrozRII is factory overclocked to 880MHz instead of stock clock 810MHz. Unstable overclock can be solved by a) lowering the clock speed b) increase the voltage...which both can be done in the MSI Afterburner software.

While it might be solvable by changing settings as I mentioned above, as the MSI GTX560Ti Twin FrozR II are retailed with factory overclock, so you are within your right to RMA the card if the problem is indeed unstable factory overclock. But before you RMA the card, it'd be best if you would test your card in another PC to see if the same issue occur to make sure it is problem with the card, not with your system...such as not providing stable enough power (i.e. PSU, motherboard). The reason for this is if you send the card back to OcUK or whereever you bought it from, and the etailer tested your card and cannot reproduce the problems as it is on your PC, they might conclude the card is not faulty, and charge you fees for their time spent on testing the card.

If you have determined it is definitely problem with the card (i.e. same problems in another PC), then you would have to think about whether you'd want to RMA the card back to the etailer, or MSI.

Few things you should consider:
a) if you RMA to the etailer and they tested it and confirm it to be faulty, you then have the choice to either ask for a replacement, or you full money back (since it is a newly purchased card), However, if they can't identify any fault, you might be charged a testing fee
b) MSI is more likely to be able to find faults with the card that etailer's staffs cannot
c) RMAing to MSI might get you a better card in return, if they do not have the same model to replace yours (i.e. you might get a MSI GTX560Ti Twin FrozrII 2GB or GTX570 as replacement if you are LUCKY).
 
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The card is the FrozrII and its the none oc version so its got me stumped. I have a bit of a old rubbish pc this is being typed on so I will try the gpu on that later and see if its the same thanks m8.
 
Another thing you could try is using a different version driver rather than the latest one from the Nvidia site. I have seen people that got crashing problems, and using a different driver have solved them.
 
Tried the released driver before the bf3 beta driver and there was no diffrence. Waiting till mrs gets home then taking this pc downstairs and trying the gpu in this one see if it does the same on this pc.
 
Tried it on this pc last night but couldnt replicate it although the fans were spinning up fast but the side panel was off. I should be getting my rma'ed cpu back today so will try it on my 990fx board later hopefully. After trying it on this one I put it back in my x38 mobo and it didnt even get to windows before BSODing so makes me think its my old system rather than the gpu, i will let you know if its ok in the new system when I do it later thanks guys.
 
Marine-RX179 said:
Sound like the symptoms of unstable overclock. If I remember correctly, the MSI GTX560Ti Twin FrozRII is factory overclocked to 880MHz instead of stock clock 810MHz. Unstable overclock can be solved by a) lowering the clock speed b) increase the voltage...which both can be done in the MSI Afterburner software.
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That maybe true but 880 MHZ is a piece of cake for these cards. Nvidias base speed specs for the GTX 460 + 560 GPUs were actually underclocked well below what these chips are capable to allow AIB's to make custom overclocked designs from day 1 of release.

My MSI GTX 560 tis easily run at 850 Mhz while undervolted to 0.950 mv, these GPUs really wont be BSODing due to unstable overclocks at any speed below 900 Mhz around stock volts.

I'm not sure if you already diagnosed it as the CPU, but to make sure you should try running Prime 95 and see if it causes any BSODs, in which case they would be caused by the CPU, not the GPU.
 
bhavv said:
I'm not sure if you already diagnosed it as the CPU, but to make sure you should try running Prime 95 and see if it causes any BSODs, in which case they would be caused by the CPU, not the GPU.
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While I agree it's worth looking at the CPU, it would still be quite odd since the OP didn't mention his Q6600 on his existing hardware had any problem prior to installing a GTX560Ti onto it. If there are problems now, it is could point to his his PSU not delivering stable enough power for both the Q6600 and his new GTX560Ti...which I WOULD like to doubt since he got a Corsair HX1000W. But then again, PSU performance can deteriorate over years of usage...still, with a 1000W good brand PSU I can't really see it failing so badly.
 
Still got fingers crossed to get my 1100T today although its being delivered by city link grrrrrrrrr but when it gets here it will certainly narrow down the problem. The psu in this old pc is a 700watt ocz psu and I didnt get a bsod on this one. But I should find out whats happening once the new cpu gets here.

Thanks again guys appriciate all your help.
 
Ok guys got my system going 990fx mobo 1100T cpu and everything seems ok so far so think it was other system gpu idling at about 30+c, I am a tad concerned about cpu though on my H50 on push pull idel temps in bios are 53c.
 
From the FAQ:

4. I can only see a single temperature reading.

AMD processors based on the Phenom and Phenom II (Athlon II, Sempron II, Turion II, etc.) only have a single thermal sensor.

Thus Core Temp will only display a single CPU temperature reading. There is no way of getting a per-core reading on these processors.
 
Im confused big time just done cpuid and im getting temps of 20's yet bios is saying 50's I dont know what to believe.
 
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