5700x v 5800x Same price which do you buy?

[Darujhistan]

5800X faster, hotter, higher power consumption, but is the same price...

5700x 95% of the performance, cooler, only 65 TDP.

Gaming usage only.

 

[Darujhistan]

How long can you hold on for, looks like the 5800x3d is starting to drop in price.

It's always going to be another £100-150 more than the 700/800, I'm not looking to spend that much on AM4 - at that price point, i'll bite the bullet and go 7700X and AM5.

 

[Darujhistan]

Wouldn't the 5800x in Eco Mode basically be a 5700x?

I don't know tbh.

 

[Darujhistan]

same price, the 5800X then.

Why?

 

[Darujhistan]

Hmmm I'm kinda a leaning towards lower temps and power consumption over a slightly higher base clock higher boosting, absolute best performance isn't the issue as if in afew years time the 5700x isn't coping with my current gaming needs, then the 5800x won't be either.

It kinda looks to me like the 5700x is a "better" if not "faster" chip, like it's a better engineered version with a tiny drop in absolute top ened peformance as a drawback. I'm guessing to be clocked to a 5800x anyway.

 

[Darujhistan]

At same price, 5800X > 5700X, they're basically the same CPU, if heat is an issue, you can put 5800X in eco mode, which makes it a 5700X, and you get better resale value should you decide to sell it later. Also instead of putting it in eco mode, you can adjust curve optimizer, it's worth it, when I had a 5800X, I adjusted it so that it draws 20w less, knocked 10c off max temp, and kept 99% of the performance.

5800X running hotter than other CPUs in the same series is normal, as the post above mentioned, 8 cores @ 105w TDP (144w power draw max at default settings) crammed into a tiny area makes it a bit difficult to cool down.

I think this is why the 5700X looks more appealing to me, 65W v 105W, 95% of the performance, by the time the 5700x can't do what I want it too, ther 5800x won't be able to do either, so that extra performance while nice is never going to be a game-changer for gaming.

 

[Darujhistan]

They are the same silicon so will perform almost identical with the same mobo settings. With it being a newer stepping I would predict you could get slightly better performance out of a 5700x than a 5800x but they are identical in every meaningful way other than the number they print on top.

Having said all that the 5800x is probably always going to have £10 better resale value solely due to 5800x being higher number than 5700x and not everyone realised they are the same chip.

Yeah, I think i've decided on 5700X out of the two.

 

[Darujhistan]

Went with the 5700x in the end, some faffage ensued with the new BIOS required on an old B450, and then the boot drive needing to be reconfigured to UEFI to boot the new chip, it was set to legacy and would boot the 2600, but not this one.

Initial impressions, everything seems a little snappier, there's some increased FPS, at the top end at 1440p, and the lows have certainly improved, runs cool and quiet, I could see the sense in buying the the 5800x it is slightly faster but really they're the same chip just configured differently, but I feel happy looking at the lower wattage being used.

In the end I think passing on AM5 and getting 32GB of 3200MHZ and the 5700x for about £350 and also not having to buy a new MOBO was the right choice, I can't see me being CPU bound for years.

Also, itch scrarched and I can look solely at GPU upgrades for the next few years.

 

[Darujhistan]

I have a AMD Rx 580 at the moment but Ill upgrade in the future.


Thanks.

Im have the same issue I dont really need to upgrade I just want to (like you said itch) and this small change will keep me upto date for some time like the 1700x has, I can then upgrade the other bits in time when some deals come along.

Im not a major gamer anymore, I just pick something up every now and then.

It just makes sense, I had a whole AM5 upgrade in the cart ready to go, the money on hand, and I just looked at the £850 and thought, what are you doing?

Current CPU's are just too good now.

Also I now have plenty left over for an Nvme drive when the fancy takes me.

 

[Darujhistan]

if your not going to be making the most out of it, what's the point in spending so much (time are hard already).

Yep.

 

[Darujhistan]

I came to the same conclusion.

I ended up having to get a very low profile cooler as my chassis is very limited (I was using a full sized tower cooler before and just didn't put the panels on the chassis).

If I gotten the 5800X, I would have had to downclock it manually to ensure that it didn't throttle.

Never have to touch my 5700x, temps never any higher than 75. I did order a 5800x and then cancelled it, glad I did.