5800X High Temps - Found the Culprit

ChemicalWorld · 12 Apr 2021 at 08:19

Sorry if this is pretty obvious for some of you guys but just thought I'd highlight an issue that was driving me bonkers.

Going to start of with my hardware combo and list of RGB software (you'll see where this is heading...);

Asus Rog Strix X570-E
5800X
NZXT Kraken X73
Corsair Vengeance Pro 32GB 3600 CL18
Gigabyte RTX 3080 Gaming OC

NZXT CAM
Gigabyte RGB Fusion 2.0 (...)
Corsair iCUE 3/4 (switched to 4, encountered same issues before switch)

So back to the issue. During normal desktop use my temps were around 69 degrees, bumping up to around 74 degrees during gaming and around 80 odd degrees during CPU intensive benchmarks. I scratched it off to just a quirk of the CPU (AMD admitting themselves that it's a hot boy). But I just couldn't shake the feeling that something was off. I had played around with PBO2 and dialled in my settings to help undervolt as effective as I could and yet my temps were still high for my Kraken X73.

I also suddenly without warning one day ran into RGB issues preventing my iCUE from loading, and really crappy behaviour from the RGB Fusion software. So in the end I decided to uninstall both iCUE and RGB Fusion to see what I could do. For starters my RGB profile I had set for my RTX 3080 held so I no longer needed that bloatware. I was then able to properly re-install iCUE (switched to version 4) and as another bonus the plugin for my Asus motherboard now properly works.

The biggest improvement aside from RGB actually working more streamlined is that now my temps at desktop are sitting around 39-45 degrees, and then around 50 odd degrees whilst gaming. And I jumped from 14400 odd multicore score in Cinebench R23 to 15500 odd!

So for anyone that still has Gigabyte RGB Fusion 2.0 on their system for just their graphics card, please do yourself a favour. Uninstall it, erase it from your mind and get back on with your gaming lives in the knowledge that you have saved your PCs soul from eternal damnation.

Cyber-Mav · 12 Apr 2021 at 08:56

bling bling is for the kiddies new to pc being enticed away from their consoles by the fancy colours. lol

ChemicalWorld · 12 Apr 2021 at 09:19

Cyber-Mav said:
bling bling is for the kiddies new to pc being enticed away from their consoles by the fancy colours. lol

I've been a PC gamer since the 90s, nothing wrong with RGB if you enjoy building and appreciating a good rig. Just wish the software side wasn't so janky...

humbug · 12 Apr 2021 at 14:24

Try OpenRGB https://gitlab.com/CalcProgrammer1/OpenRGB

V F · 12 Apr 2021 at 14:29

I'm afraid to say it but these manufacturer programs or overall RGB stuff for computers is complete cancer. It really is.

I swear to god, honestly. It feels like there aren't a great deal of good programmers nowadays. Everything certainly feels so botchy.

MissChief · 12 Apr 2021 at 15:06

V F said:
I'm afraid to say it but these manufacturer programs or overall RGB stuff for computers is complete cancer. It really is.

I swear to god, honestly. It feels like there aren't a great deal of good programmers nowadays. Everything certainly feels so botchy.

Always go for the cheapest outsourced option don’t they?

V F · 12 Apr 2021 at 15:47

Well that's a bummer. I'm looking through the supported list for OpenRGB.

Granted there are some things of mine supported.

Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro. Full support. Though I have the RGB on them switched off.
No listing of the Gigabyte Z490 Xtreme. Which this is also synced up with the GPU RGB bracket support. I'm doubting no support. Currently switched off.
No mention of the HyperX Pulsefire Haste. I'm going to assume no support.
No mention of the Gigabyte KD25F monitor. So I'm also going to assume no support.
No mention of the EVGA 1080Ti FTW3.
Steelseries Apex Pro TKL has no green ticks next to them.
Razer Lancehead TE has integrated support.
No mention or green ticks for the Steelseries Rival 310.

Hotwired · 12 Apr 2021 at 15:47

Programming some RGB tat doesn't immediately sound like something you'd give to your expensive programmers.

Tell the intern to do it for experience.

V F · 12 Apr 2021 at 15:54

Hotwired said:
Programming some RGB tat doesn't immediately sound like something you'd give to your expensive programmers.

Tell the intern to do it for experience.

Thing is, it's not just the RGB programming side. I'm seeing a huge drop across manufacturers even with BIOS updates botching peoples systems. The quality control across the board in software programming has greatly fallen. Look at even game development, Windows and so on.

The same problems, lack of good testing or testers. Get it rushed out and fix it later, if it ever gets fixed.

MissChief · 12 Apr 2021 at 17:15

I have the Gigabyte RGB Fusion software installed, I can't get my Crucial RGB RAM to change colour on boot without it. CPU currently running at 38'C though so no hot running here

Moeks · 14 Apr 2021 at 10:29

Ignore this, I spotted a more appropriate place to say what I wanted as it has nothing to do with RGB software, only 5800X temperatures.

V F · 15 Apr 2021 at 22:44

@humbug Found another interesting new one. SignalRGB. https://www.whirlwindfx.com/pages/signalrgb

humbug · 16 Apr 2021 at 00:35

V F said:
@humbug Found another interesting new one. SignalRGB. https://www.whirlwindfx.com/pages/signalrgb

Thanks, i'll have a look at it

Fatpizza · 16 Apr 2021 at 05:46

I like the the fact that with ASRock you can set the motherboard rgb from the bios without needing any extra software.
I then use my aquacomputer octo for everything else.

Kirby Wurm · 17 Apr 2021 at 22:51

humbug said:
Try OpenRGB https://gitlab.com/CalcProgrammer1/OpenRGB

I'm too lazy to look but does this work with MSI mobos?
Nevermind, I followed the link hehehe!

N19h7m4r3 · 18 Apr 2021 at 11:29

I had the exact same issue with my 5950X and Noctua just after the CPU launched, and reached out on twitter. Robert Hallock pointed me in the same direction. Removed the RGB stuff, and issues resolved.

humbug · 18 Apr 2021 at 17:09

N19h7m4r3 said:
I had the exact same issue with my 5950X and Noctua just after the CPU launched, and reached out on twitter. Robert Hallock pointed me in the same direction. Removed the RGB stuff, and issues resolved.

This is really useful.

V F · 18 Apr 2021 at 19:09

I'm going to assume the RGB Fusion thing only affects AMD? Did the same occur when it wasn't running?

ChemicalWorld · 18 Apr 2021 at 22:53

V F said:
I'm going to assume the RGB Fusion thing only affects AMD? Did the same occur when it wasn't running?

My temperatures have considerably dropped since removing RGB Fusion. Whilst gaming the highest I've seen it go is around 54 degrees and typically on desktop it goes between 35 and 40 degrees depending on what my system is doing at the time. iCUE in contrast doesn't seem to be giving me any issues.

I've no idea if this causes the same issue on Intels side but the software is crap in any case. It would always hog up startup time resulting in certain programs not loading correctly (what ultimately clued me up on the cause of my headaches).

chroniclard · 18 Apr 2021 at 23:25

Loads of these vendor programs are trash. I set my RGB up then uninstalled the bloatware of Asus armoury crate, It's horrendous.