5800x now vs 5900x pre-order

[mikehhhhhhh]

I kinda wanted a 5900x but given that I can't buy one anywhere, I got impatient and ordered a 5800x thinking that given that the machine is mostly used for Software Dev and Gaming / Sim Racing, I probably won't actually miss the performance from the 5900x.

I'm coming from a 3600 that is earmarked for another build.

I'm wondering whether anyone knows the deal with the 5900x and how long I could expect to wait for one, but also people's opinions on whether waiting for a 5900x will be worth it.

 

[mikehhhhhhh]

I actually ordered my 5800x from somewhere else, as they promised me that I'd have it tomorrow and OCUK didn't have the Corsair AIO in stock (I'm currently using the OEM cooler that came with my 3600).

The more I read and think about it, the more I think the 5800x is the better choice today.

 

[mikehhhhhhh]

Thanks for the advice chaps. I'm going to stick with the 5800x and stick the difference towards a 3080 to replace my ageing 1080 FE - although it seems like getting one will be a big test of patience

 

[mikehhhhhhh]

Typical, I paid £429

£379 is a bargain! I wonder if people aren’t buying the 5800x because it’s not a big enough jump over the popular 5600x.

I’d have gone 5900x if I could have found one.

 

[mikehhhhhhh]

I'm upgrading from 3700x and not interested in the overpriced 5900x. I'm not sure if the 5800x is enough of an upgrade. I wouldn't go 5600x as I'd be dropping 2 cores.

So it's 5800x or stick with the 3700x. Decisions decisions..

I guess it all boils down to whether you want/need that extra single core performance / higher clock speeds.

That single core performance was my main motivation to jump from 3600, as I have titles that were limited by it.

 

[mikehhhhhhh]

I would think so. I can't see a couple of extra cores making or breaking it within that timeframe, especially given the jump in IPC over the last generation.

 

[mikehhhhhhh]

Yeah, it certainly seems like going 5800x was the right call.

I'll still likely pick up a 5900x at some point, though.

 

[mikehhhhhhh]

Any particular reason why people want the 12 core? I wanted one until the tweaked benchmarks showed them having faster core clocks.

Me gamer, more better.

What benchmarks?

 

[mikehhhhhhh]

Me developer, testing apps deployed in Kubernetes locally. Lots of real cores for testing multiple instances. 16 cores even better but cost getting a bit high. 12 is a sweet spot for me. YMMV

How many containers are you running and what sort of workloads? I too run a lot of containers for local development, but I hadn't considered a large number of cores beneficial - I certainly didn't notice any improvement going from 3600 - 5800x.

 

[mikehhhhhhh]

I really can't decide what to do at this point. April is still a fair way off for the 5900X, and may be longer still before I can actually snag one. My main use is Lightroom + Photoshop and gaming, so the 5800X should still be a viable option for that. Now just seems a really bad time to be putting a new system together, with all these part shortages!

I bought a 5800 a month ago because I couldn’t get a 5900x.

I regret nothing and it performs great. I may pick a 5900x when they drop but only for the sake of upgrading.

That said, if next gen is DDR5 then a cheaper build for now doesn’t seem a bad option.

 

[mikehhhhhhh]

I paid £430 for mine and I'm happy with it.

 

[mikehhhhhhh]

Price is certainly a factor, but not clear cut for me. I can afford either, but I do like to get "value for money". £90 difference is relatively small, so stepping up was an easy choice... this discussion topic has been done to death already. However, 5800x at £350 is well positioned to offer the same value for money on the basis of £/core (compared to the 5900x at £510)... the 5800x does not look so attractive above £350.

It's kind of irrelevant if you can't buy a 5900x and I suspect when you can buy one, it won't be for £510. OCUK have it listed at £599 currently.

 

[mikehhhhhhh]

So those of you that gave up waiting for a 5900X, Will you likely switch out the 5800X for a 5900X? If so, Any specific reason why?

That ultimately depends on how long until the 5900 is available to buy.

I think the longer time goes on, the less inclined I am to upgrade. I have a machine with a 3600 in that the 5800x would be put to good use in, though.

 

[mikehhhhhhh]

Well to conclude this thread, I finally managed to place an order for a 5900x.

5800x will go in a second build, dedicated to sim racing. Win - win situation

 

[mikehhhhhhh]

Would be wary about any AMD AM4 purchase right now. Platform's at the end of its lifecycle - be better to hang fire until they launch next gen chipset and compatible CPUs in late 2021 or 2022. Intel are unfortunately in the same boat. 2 generations of CPUs on socket 1200, they've done their tock and tick, so should be a new platform in 2022.

4K gaming's out the window until there's better availability (and more realistic pricing) on NVidia 3080 or AMD 6800XT and above GPUs. 1440p is still the sweet spot for gaming, and is absolutely no problem getting ultra 1440p performance on most games, with even 2 or 3-year old CPUs. Why rush out for overpriced CPUs on platforms with poor future-proofing, when you can't get GPUs to make it worthwhile?

If you can't purchase a CPU because a new one might be along within a year, you'd never buy anything. It rarely pays to be an early adopter of a brand new platform, anyway.

I've ended up with two x570 boards, a 5800x , a 5900x and a 3090. I just need one more graphics card.

 

[mikehhhhhhh]

I'm sticking with my emergency 3600 until I can go 12 cores or better at a sane price. Up till now I've been on a 6600k, and either had VMs and things running, or a game. The 3600 struggles but a can do a few things and game, just.

The idea of 8 cores for the games, 3 for the servers and 1 the OS...??

I just can't wait. Watching supply closely.

You can get a used 3900x today for ~£300 - that sounds pretty reasonable if you favour core count.

 

[mikehhhhhhh]

You have a point.

I could just do that. On one hand, it's not as good as the 5900. On the other, it's... half (?) The effective price?

Can you think of a reason not to?

Might be even cheaper than that, it seems to be a range of 200-330 on a popular auction site. If I needed more cores over single threaded performance and couldn't find or afford a 5900, that's what I'd do.

Besides, it's not like the single thread performance is bad.