5800x up/side grade for itx?

[robnut]

Hey.

I ive got a 5800x and 2080super in my itx build. Ive undervolted and set it to eco mode to make temps ok for me

45c idle, 75c underload. I know the chips are happier higher but doesnt sit with me

Looked at upgrading to a 9600x or similar.

Is this the right move for lower power with same or better performance or is there an intel option I am overlooking?

 

[deviation]

75C is pretty low for a 5800X, they can hit 90C under load on cinebench easily.

But if you must have lower temps, do it the better way, and do this:

PPC 120W
TDC 75A
EDC 110A

You can also add a -20 Negative undervolt to all cores on the curve optimizer - but YMMV on that one. The first is pretty much proven to work on all of them.
Leave everything else on Auto, no Eco mode preset or anything else. Just the above 2 tweaks.
That might fix your problem

 

[Tetras]

Is this the right move for lower power with same or better performance or is there an intel option I am overlooking?

You're aware that would need a new motherboard and memory, right?

Those temps are fine, by the way.

 

[robnut]

75C is pretty low for a 5800X, they can hit 90C under load on cinebench easily.

But if you must have lower temps, do it the better way, and do this:

PPC 120W
TDC 75A
EDC 110A

You can also add a -20 Negative undervolt to all cores on the curve optimizer - but YMMV on that one. The first is pretty much proven to work on all of them.
Leave everything else on Auto, no Eco mode preset or anything else. Just the above 2 tweaks.
That might fix your problem

Ah I have done this. it was 88c with default asus boost etc enabled. Synthetic load is 82/3c with a Thermalright spirit se.

You're aware that would need a new motherboard and memory, right?

Those temps are fine, by the way.

Yep, looking at a new build minus gpu for now, gpu in a few months.


I guess I need to get over the temps while gaming/load as long as keep it under 90c with reasonable noise?

Im a bit of a ocd noise freak and undervolting etc put my mind at ease.

 

[Tetras]

I guess I need to get over the temps while gaming/load as long as keep it under 90c with reasonable noise?

Im a bit of a ocd noise freak and undervolting etc put my mind at ease.

Yep. The 5800X was always a hot running CPU, but these CPUs are hot anyway compared to the old Intel CPUs.

If you max out at ~80c with fully multithreaded load that's absolutely fine, nothing to worry about.

 

[robnut]

Yep. The 5800X was always a hot running CPU, but these CPUs are hot anyway compared to the old Intel CPUs.

If you max out at ~80c with fully multithreaded load that's absolutely fine, nothing to worry about.

Thanks for the info. I may relax my tight fan curves and see.

Would I see much of an uplift 5800x - 7600x in gaming. I play Helldivers, few driving sims, valheim and wow.

 

[Tetras]

Thanks for the info. I may relax my tight fan curves and see.

Would I see much of an uplift 5800x - 7600x in gaming. I play Helldivers, few driving sims, valheim and wow.

You'd need a fairly high-end graphics card (like better than a 4070) and to be mainly CPU bottlenecked in the games you play.

Personally, that's a sidegrade for me (high-end AM4 to low-end AM5) and I'd only do it for the 7800X3D or 9800X3D.

 

[robnut]

You'd need a fairly high-end graphics card (like better than a 4070) and to be mainly CPU bottlenecked in the games you play.

Personally, that's a sidegrade for me (high-end AM4 to low-end AM5) and I'd only do it for the 7800X3D or 9800X3D.

Excellent. think ill stick with what I have and go gpu instead. Thank you.