5820k or something else?

[koooowweeee]

Hey

So I'm going to be upgrading from a x5670 soon and I've been eyeing up a 5820k

I'll be buying used and need ram CPU and mobo.

Is a 5820k a good buy or is there something else? Any hidden gems like the Xeon I have now?

Thanks for any advice.

Forgot to mention it's just for gaming and I will be clocking it as well

 

[koooowweeee]

1080p monitor and I'm not changing for a while. I've got a gtx780 but I'm upgrading that soon.

My plan it to put it all on water then not upgrade for a good while so I'm thinking 5820k for the extra cores

 

[koooowweeee]

I'm not sure if there's any point getting an i7-5820K over an i7-8700K unless you want quad channel memory and extra PCIe lanes. The i7-8700K is around the same price, will clock higher, and will probably have a slightly cheaper motherboard.

I'm buying used so the 5820k will be much cheaper I think?

 

[koooowweeee]

Probably no point putting older tech like this under water. Ryzen 6 cores stand up well and would cost similar to put under water.

New Ryzen refresh is out in a couple of months which has put the cost of the first Ryzen gen cpus down a lot. Today they chopped between 10 and 27% off the cpus. You could wait for new Ryzen refresh or get a discounted first gen ryzen now cheaper than it has ever been.

Yeah I get what your saying but I'm not that bothered about the age and I've already got everything to put it under water.

I think I'll have to see which is best bang for buck

Typical that something new is coming out when I want to upgrade now :-/

 

[koooowweeee]

Ah if you're buying used then yeah an i7-5820K is probably a better choice over Coffee Lake. Might wanna look at Ryzen since an R5 1600 might even be cheaper new than a used i7-5820K though.

I've not had anything AMD for 15 years or so. Not that I'm a hardcore intel fan or anything. Bit with ryzen I sort of been out of with the stability when overclocked. Is this still something of a problem?

How would a 5820k (clocked as high as I can go) Vs a 1600 (clocked as well) compare

 

[koooowweeee]

the 5820k ocd will be better than the ryzens in games . either pick a cheap 5820k up cheap if you can and mobo or go 8700k.no point in ryzen at the moment.coffee lakes have em beat.x99 platform still good for a few years yet and still quicker than ryzens.

the ddr 4 ram prices is the killer though

This was my thinking. It will last a few years and the price isn't all that bad.

Cpu £170
Mobo £150
Ram £ 80+

That's what prices I've been looking at for the 5820k

 

[koooowweeee]

nah not too bad.the warranty is what could be the only issue.if its just for 2 years for eg then id say its worth it. aslong as the ram you quoted is 16gb.

I think low speed ram at that price. The + was is I wanted better. Which I know I'll get a itch for something better at some point

 

[koooowweeee]

You could build a new Ryzen 7 system with 16gb of RAM and a decent X370 board for not much more. I think AMD have also announced a price drop on Ryzen too.

I think £400 is my max budget right now for the ram, cpu and mobo.

I've got to upgrade my GPU and get a block for that as well but I'll look into a ryzen a bit more.


Are there any Xeon CPUs like that 5820k that could be cheaper ?

 

[koooowweeee]

There is a 6700k/16gb 3600mhz on the MM

I've got my heart set on something 6 core (or more) just to future proof it a little more. I do think all games will use more than 4 cores very soon.

 

[koooowweeee]

Just noticed that OCUK still hasnt' dropped the price of the Ryzen CPU's even though the drops were announced. That bundle above that I posted to will be less than £400 when the price drops are factored in.

That's not a bad deal actually. Maybe I could get 16gb when the price drops. Won't be till the end of week or maybe next week till I can get it so prices should be sorted by then.

 

[koooowweeee]

Get yourself an x79/x99 with a 1560 v2/v3.

Secondhand dream machine. Plenty of years left in them and cheap!

I can't seem to find out much about them.

Look like the same as the 5820k on intel site but other than that I'm drawing a blank.

Can't find them on the eBay and do they overclock the same? Is there anything similar to this chip that I should keep a eye out for? Just seen a 1660 V3 but it's almost the same price as a 5820k and it's a ES chip


Cheers

 

[koooowweeee]

I have a 5820k and if buying now I’d sink my £400 into Ryzen. You’ll get significantly more scope to upgrade, you don’t need 4 memory DIMMS and it’s more efficient. Plus you’ll get a warranty.

Yeah going end up costing the same I think.

Correct me if I'm wrong because I lost touch after sandy bridge.

If I get x79 and 1560/1660 V2 it will be cheap, I can use ddr3 plus I get a nice 6 core CPU that will more than do for a year or so ?

 

[koooowweeee]

if you look at it realistically from this point.

ryzen you going to be upgrading in probably 3 year max regardless of if you can put a slightly better cpu in at later date.its false acconomy.youll be doing a full upgrade by the time you thinking of swapping the cpu.
5820k if you can pick up a good clocker cheap and cheaper than the ryzen its going to be as good as and faster in games for the same period as the ryzen set up
8700k in games fastest of the lot for the period of all three choices.dearest choice over the period but over 3 years by very little.

work out the cost over the lifespan you keeping it. id rather pay 60-70 extra per year to have the best gaming performance.intel are way aghead in games already.ryzens 20/30 percent behind in some games.now.imagine later.during your pc lifespan.even slower in 2 years time.yet a 8700k will still be right at the top.its worth the small extra per year.

I would love a 8700k but I can't stretch to that kind of money right now.

Are you talking about a ryzen 1600? Would a 1700/1800 come back onto play in a year or so with it having extra cores?

I know no one knows the future but it's looking like more and more cores will be used so 8 core should pull ahead eventually?

 

[koooowweeee]

Yeah good point. In 2 years or so I'll probably upgrade.

I think it's going to have to be a 5820k or a Xeon equivalent. So many out there it's hurting my brain now trying to find the right one and for the right price. eBay is a mine field lol

 

[koooowweeee]

Thanks for all the advice but I've ended up with a 5960k

Long story short.... The wife's granddad passed 6 months ago. He was a graphic designer.

So I've got a full rig for the cost of Faubourg for the nan-in-law for ever more.

Might sound mega lucky but in the last 12 months I've reprinted her chimney, jetwashed here front and back garden, painted her fences, loads of other bits and bobs all for free because I can't take money off family and it sometimes cost me money through expencive and loss of work

 

[koooowweeee]

I've got the 5930k now. Just eating n a few parts then I'll have it under water. Because I got the computer for free I treated myself to a Titan X (Maxwell) that will be need water too

 

[koooowweeee]

The main reason I wanted to upgrade is because I had a itch lol. The x5670 @ 4.1 was doing fine for the games and res I was playing at.

I don't think I'll update for 2 years now.