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5900x woes

Demon_mkII

Demon_mkII

Demon_mkII

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So i got my brand new 5900x delivered this morning.

ROG Strix x570 gaming-f
working perfectly with the newest non-beta bios for around 6 hours
32gb DDR4 3600
MSI gaming x-trio 3080

Random blue screen whilst watching Netflix with a game in the background (Ni no kuni) after cpu had been working correctly for 6 hours or so.
now stuck in a boot loop/ freezing between the splash screen directly before windows, restarting to automatic repair and freezing/ restarting.

confirmed its not an hardware issue with other parts with my older 3900x
immediately booted up correctly. downloaded both other options of bios for this board ready to use.

with the 5900x back the issues started right back up again
tried both bios versions with no luck.

Lemon CPU?
 
Not sure if it is the same issue but I had a few problems after upgrading from a 3950x to a 5950x. I just dropped in the CPU hoping I didn't need to reinstall Windows but it was very unstable, sometimes needing a full hard reset to recover. Anyway I ended up doing a full clean install of Windows which seemed to help although I haven't run it for that long after the re-install so fingers crossed.

TomD
 
I doubt its the same issue unfortunately, I pretty much did a drop in upgrade (did my bios earlier this week) it worked fine all day, including after restarts from installing later chipset drivers ad other installs, and then just blue screened after 3 hours or so and nada, I've gone back to my 3900x for now. but I'm pretty sure this is an RMA.

Stop codes were:

System_thread_exception_not_handled
kernel_security_check_failure
IRQL_not_less_or_equal
Interrupt_exception_not_handled
 
Demon_mkII said:
My build has been rock solid for the last year, I'm always testing with various benchmarking tools, and this it the only fault, which conveniently stops as soon as my old cpu goes In. If its not the new chip then its a bloody elusive fault!
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it could be a range of stuff when you slot a new CPU in. when you put a new CPU or mobo, you have to assume it is a new system and do your stability testing all over again. this is esepcally true for memory.

i would suggest you also reset your bios and start with default values and go from there
 
pc-guy said:
it could be a range of stuff when you slot a new CPU in. when you put a new CPU or mobo, you have to assume it is a new system and do your stability testing all over again. this is esepcally true for memory.

i would suggest you also reset your bios and start with default values and go from there
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Tried bios reset and attempted boots with bone stock settings, three bios versions and 1 older chipset driver.

Pc was working perfectly before the crash and still works perfectly without the new cpu

With the new cpu it won't even go past the splash. So while I can change the bios settings it changes nothing
 
If you haven't tried already, set your RAM default 2133 or if you want to try XMP profile no more than 3200MHz with IF on Auto or 1:1 with RAM, all I seen with this Zen 2 to Zen 3 transitions is that whatever you had previously for you RAM/IF it may not be stable with new CPU.

Windows is most likely fine (for a while) as RAM issues will corrupt OS sooner or later, I switched from Intel system to Zen 3 without OS reinstall and it worked fine for a week before I did a fresh install.
 
Alyjen said:
If you haven't tried already, set your RAM default 2133 or if you want to try XMP profile no more than 3200MHz with IF on Auto or 1:1 with RAM, all I seen with this Zen 2 to Zen 3 transitions is that whatever you had previously for you RAM/IF it may not be stable with new CPU.

Windows is most likely fine (for a while) as RAM issues will corrupt OS sooner or later, I switched from Intel system to Zen 3 without OS reinstall and it worked fine for a week before I did a fresh install.
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Ram all at defaults with no xmp settings enabled. First thing I tried :/ the only thing I can think is a fresh install, but this seems like overkill with over a TB of new downloads that will be needed
 
Demon_mkII said:
Ram all at defaults with no xmp settings enabled. First thing I tried :/ the only thing I can think is a fresh install, but this seems like overkill with over a TB of new downloads that will be needed
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you were on intel then you moved to AMD without fresh install?

i think you will defintiely need fresh install. but ealrier you said you cant post? but now you saying you can get into windows?
 
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pc-guy said:
you were on intel then you moved to AMD without fresh install?

i think you will defintiely need fresh install. but ealrier you said you cant post? but now you saying you can get into windows?
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Nooo

I was on a ryzen 3900x

Switched to 5900x.

System worked fine for the day perfectly with new chipset drivers in place and no conflicts, then crashed to blue screen. Then issue with being unable to boot.

Tried 3900x to confirm no component damage. Booted direct to windows and worked correctly . Downloaded extra bios to see if they worked and put the 5900x back in, same issue on three bios' with optimisated defaults on bios

Switched back to 3900x

5900x will not make it past the post screen will not boot to Windows, freeze and blue screens and tries to boot to recovery, where it either reboots and loops or blue screens/freezes
 
Demon_mkII said:
Yeah that's my plan, my last ditch effort after work is to remove my drives and attempt a new install with a 2.5' ssd but based on all this I have next to no hope
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Before you RMA have you re installed the latest AMD chipset drivers for your board? if not do so it will cure the blue screens
 
VaderDSL said:
Maybe try a linux live distro with the 5900X first? If that's stable might point you towards software.
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Might be worth trying, can you direct me to a version that would be suitable for a usb? (I have up to 64gb sticks) I have zero experience in linux so would be a bit of a pain but may help
 
First thing to try is to boot into safe mode, have you done that yet? If that doesn't work then move down through the list below:

If you have PBO on auto disable it, if that doesn't help try a safe fixed cpu ratio and voltage, say 40x and 1.25v just to make sure its ok. Be careful setting a fixed cpu multiplier, Asus do odd things with the Auto voltage for CPU PLL when in manual multiplier mode, you may want to manually set that voltage to 1.8v.

Next try a cmos reset and start afresh, don't load a profile. Just reset cmos, go into bios, load optimised defaults and save and exit (even if it tells you nothing had changed). Do nothing else, just boot it straight up and see if you get into windows.

If its still not working your next step should be trying some bootable tests to eliminate windows as the cause. First go to Memtest86.com, download the free version and make a bootable pen drive, see how it tests out. If that's ok make a bootable usb pendrive with googlestressapp and see how you get on with that.


Asus bioses are not good for Ryzen 5000 at the moment, they have lots of very weird bugs. On the 2402 bios my 2 x 16gb samsung kit was/is 100% stable overclocked. Swapping to the 2 x 8gb kit all sorts of weird behaviour started happening, it gradually got worse to the point that I could no longer boot windows. A cmos clear would get me into windows a few times but deterioration happened ever more quickly.

The 2702 bios seems to have mostly resolved this - the sticks still dont clock quite as they should though they still do on my Gigabyte X570i / 3900XT.
 
VaderDSL said:
It's really easy https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/try-ubuntu-before-you-install#1-getting-started
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MrPils said:
First thing to try is to boot into safe mode, have you done that yet? If that doesn't work then move down through the list below:

If you have PBO on auto disable it, if that doesn't help try a safe fixed cpu ratio and voltage, say 40x and 1.25v just to make sure its ok. Be careful setting a fixed cpu multiplier, Asus do odd things with the Auto voltage for CPU PLL when in manual multiplier mode, you may want to manually set that voltage to 1.8v.

Next try a cmos reset and start afresh, don't load a profile. Just reset cmos, go into bios, load optimised defaults and save and exit (even if it tells you nothing had changed). Do nothing else, just boot it straight up and see if you get into windows.

If its still not working your next step should be trying some bootable tests to eliminate windows as the cause. First go to Memtest86.com, download the free version and make a bootable pen drive, see how it tests out. If that's ok make a bootable usb pendrive with googlestressapp and see how you get on with that.


Asus bioses are not good for Ryzen 5000 at the moment, they have lots of very weird bugs. On the 2402 bios my 2 x 16gb samsung kit was/is 100% stable overclocked. Swapping to the 2 x 8gb kit all sorts of weird behaviour started happening, it gradually got worse to the point that I could no longer boot windows. A cmos clear would get me into windows a few times but deterioration happened ever more quickly.

The 2702 bios seems to have mostly resolved this - the sticks still dont clock quite as they should though they still do on my Gigabyte X570i / 3900XT.[/QUOTE
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Many thanks to both of you, I will try this later and update
 
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