5950x VS 13700k, any sense in getting the former?

[Zarax]

Hello everybody,
I'm trying to get a sanity check. Benchmarks seems to suggest a 13700k is the better choice both in single and multi threaded scenarios, system cost is pretty similar.
Is there any relatively common scenario where a 5950x would be the better choice?

Both CPUs would be powered by a corsair RM850 and cooled by a Noctua D15.

Thanks!

 

[Zarax]

Thanks for your answers.

My scenario is:
- Completely new build
- 80% gaming, 20% machine learning (that's why I'm looking for lots of threads)
- I'm looking for a "best of DDR4" build to keep costs down, 64GB RAM and motherboards are still too expensive
- The only upgrades that will ever be done are GPU and SSD

 

[Zarax]

13700k + ddr4 will offer the best mix of gaming + multithreading.

I'm leaning towards it, although part of me is tempted to try a 5800X3D...
Did the 13th series fix the bending issues?

 

[Zarax]

64GB isn't outrageous, I suggested this for a productivity build a bit ago, partly because of how it reviewed (video):

AMD Ryzen 9 7900 Twelve Core 5.40GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail - £428.98
Asus TUF Gaming B650-Plus WIFI (Socket AM5) DDR5 ATX Motherboard - £242.99
Corsair Vengeance 64GB (2X32GB) DDR5 PC5-41600C40 5200MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black (CMK64GX5M2B5200C40 - £248.99

Grand Total: £931.46

Isn't machine learning normally done on the GPU nowadays though? (me clueless)

From what I can see in these charts, you'd be better off with even a 13600K than a 5950X. I suspect the i5-13500 would perform quite well too, value for money wise.

GPU is used for deep learning, which is a fascinating niche of machine learning but far from the only one.
I can get 64GB DDR4 for half that price and it's money better spent somewhere else for me (like GPU).

 

[Zarax]

I guess you want to stick to ddr4, but another way to look at it is whether the investment you make today is useable 2 years down the line when you get a new cpu/motherboard.

if you can wait, wait a few months and see how AMD’s attempts of reducing the price of their motherboard pans out. Also the 7000 series x3d models should all be out by then.

For me I had an x370 board for 5 years and dropped a 5950x a few months ago. I know AMD had issues with threadripper sockets, but for you imo makes more sense to invest in an AM5 platform with ddr5.

Thanks but no, I'm likely to keep the CPU for the next 10 years just like I did with my current setup so investing in an end of the line socket is not a problem.
Basically I'm aiming at a "best of DDR4" build for maximum stability and value for money, upgrading has become expensive as it is...

 

[Zarax]

Get 13th gen intel then. The single thread performance will keep it relevant for years to come. 5950x is slower than 12600k in certain emulators etc that need high st speed

I'm heavily leaning towards it, especially as it took over 5800x3d in recent benchmarks.

 

[Zarax]

Sorry to threadjack and please excuse my ignorance.

I'm in the process of sizing up a new 13700k build myself. Is there no real benefit of paying for a DDR5 setup? Cyber-Mav - you referred to 13th gen as being a "dead end" platform. Is this because they have already announced the next gen?

TIA

Dead end means that the 14th gen will use a different socket, so your motherboard won't support it.
If you're looking to shell the money for DDR5 you might want to wait a few months for the AMD 7000X3D series which might be a better buy if you're only gaming and will support a couple more generations.

This might help your decision: