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6 core AMDs or Intel 975

yes overclocking is easy on amd system.

also if u get a black edition cpu it's even easyer..

just the case of upping the multiplers or system bus (FSB) & vcore / cpu-nb voltage
 
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xRowan said:
I think the i7 is amazing
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Yes a full rig for the price of a cpu:)

it's worth noting, however the differences between the i7 975 and the i7980X

i7975 =Core Size: 45nm - "Quad Core"


i7 980X= Core Size: 32nm - SIX Core

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i7 975 = L2 Cache: "4x 256KB" - L3 Cache: "8MB"

I7 980X- L2 Cache: 6x 256KB - L3 Cache: 12MB



..And the i7 975 is ONLY £3.00 less!!










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spending £600 on a CPU is just plain silly, why on earth would you throw away your money like that to get something like that? just get the 1055T, won't notice the difference...;)
 
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Gashman said:
spending [£779.99] on a CPU is just plain silly, why on earth would you throw away your money like that?
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Gashman,

the Intel® corporation can only charge that amount of money for the CPU because there are people that will pay that amount of money . . . if nobody was prepared to pay more than £400 then that is the max price it could be! :p

I know there are people like bankers/premier league footballers with £50,000 disposable incomes per week so basically the companies make products like these to "yoke" them of their mulla! :eek:

Once you become a "High-Roller" money becomes vulgar to even mention, the shops for the millionaires don't have price tags on the items even . . and if you have to ask the price of something you don't have enough money to be shopping there! . . . . kerching! ££££££££££ ;)

I know there are a few folks on this forum who own a Intel® Core™ i7-980X Extreme, they are not doing anyone any harm and it makes them happy, they probably don't have any vices (fags/bOOze/party-prescriptions/women etc) . . . what can you say! :cool:
 
Top end overclocking tends to require the top end chips, the 980x is a cheery picked chip and costs a fair bit more to produce than a 930 for example.

But I agree, silly money really. £400 I could see the point in, double the cost of the "standard" i7 chip (930), for 2 extra cores and theoretical higher clocks possible.
 
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Muel said:
Top end overclocking tends to require the top end chips
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I don't agree with that . . or at least the way you worded it! ;)

"Top end overclocking" requires nothing more than skill/knowledge & good cooling and has "nothing" to do with the cost of the processor being used . .

"World Class overclocking" where you produce "benchmarks" and compete in a global arena against other "World Class" overclockers/benchmarkers yeah you got a point . . . the thing is though once you reach the top rankings you get these chips for free [£0.00] . . . the idea is that your average "enthusiast" clocking in his bedroom will "admire" the product being welded by Kingpin or Fugger and will eventually convince themselves into shelling out the money $$$$

The marketing men working on behalf of the corporations know all to well the three stages a "consumer" has to pass through before buying something . . . the first stage is the most important . . . they get you to build up such an intense level of "admiration" for a product . . . once that is done it's like a house of cards crumpling . . .
  1. Admire
  2. Aspire
  3. Acquire

Muel said:
the 980x is a cheery picked chip and costs a fair bit more to produce than a 930 for example
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You sound convinced? . . . do you actually believe that is the truth? . . . have you researched this or did somebody lead you to believe that? :D

Scarcity? . . . honest guv! :cool:
 
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how if the 980x cherrypicked? its an basicly any other intel chip withy 2 cores bolted on.

its like saying 1055 and 1090 are cherrypicked
 
Big.Wayne said:
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I don't agree with that . . or at least the way you worded it! ;)

"Top end overclocking" requires nothing more than skill/knowledge & good cooling and has "nothing" to do with the cost of the processor being used . .
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Overclocking and reaching speeds of 4.6ghz plus on watercooling for example, I've seen D0 chips reach 4.4ghz, but the 980X seems to go higher in the same system. As you said, once you have the skill/knowledge and the cooling kit required, you can overclock to the limits of the component but it's down to the component to dictate it's limits. My 965BE is no slouch but nothing I can do will get it stable at over 3.8ghz, even putting 1.6ghz vcore through it. (0.05v more than recommended max).

I don't follow world class overclocking at all, as I don't have a few gallons of liquid nitrogen to hand, and the clocks are only stable for running the windows desktop anyway. I'm more impressed by people on here who get the lower end chips to silly heights, like Project Angel or Martini's 4.4ghz 1055t.

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You sound convinced? . . . do you actually believe that is the truth? . . . have you researched this or did somebody lead you to believe that? :D

Scarcity? . . . honest guv! :cool:
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arknor said:
how if the 980x cherrypicked? its an basicly any other intel chip withy 2 cores bolted on.

its like saying 1055 and 1090 are cherrypicked
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As for the cherry picked thing, I'm not sure I used the correct wording, but it definately isn't another Intel chip with 2 extra cores, it's 32nm for a start. It might uses a similar basic architecture but it would have needed adapting quite heavily for the addition of two cores and the switch to 32nm.
 
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As the OP is wanting a CPU for gaming and video editing, I would suggest he has a look at the i7 930 and 950.

In applications that use four or less threads these chips should be faster clock-for-clock than AMD Hex cores. However, if the video editing software does support more than 4 threads, then I would suggest going for the AMD hex core as it will be faster in this application.

For games none of these CPUs should limit the performance of modern games as almost all of them will be limited by the graphics cards. However, in CPU limited games the i7 will usually be faster as it is clock-for-clock faster than the AMD and almost all games are only optimised for dual cores - some do run faster on quad cores, but hardly any can make use of 6 - yet.
 
Yeah I was going to ask about the 6 core 1055. Is it logical to assume that a 1055 overclocked to 3.8 would still be playable by the time games are making use of 7/8 cores (in the same way dual cores are for the few games optimised for 3/4 cores now)? Or is the architecture likely to have changed so vastly in cpu production by that time (and games subsequently produced to take full advantage of said) that it's unlikely?

Sorry if it's a little off topic, just burning me..
 
Obviously its not possible to predict exactly how the increase in the processing threads of games will be dealt with. However, it is probably safe to assume it will be similar to how processing threads are handled in many current games.

For example most games currently require a decent dual core (core 2 duo level) to run OK, however the engines are written to make use of extra CPU threads if they are available - therefore higher performance is provided by quad core, but the dual cores will still run the games fine.

If a similar system is used for games which can make use of 8+ cores then a good six core CPU will still play them fine.

Anyway, at the current pace of game development a six core CPU won't be required for several years yet.
 
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Anyway, at the current pace of game development a six core CPU won't be required for several years yet.
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That's exactly the crux of my thinking! If I pick up a 6 core cpu now, am I likely to be set for 5-6 years of gaming?

I know that at stock the 1055 performs worse than the 955/65 but overclocked to the same speed (3.8) should perform similarly now, and I'm hoping will possibly be perform adequately enough by the time games are not only making use of 6 cores, but moving onto 7/8 cores.
 
Muel said:
Overclocking and reaching speeds of 4.6ghz plus on watercooling for example, I've seen D0 chips reach 4.4ghz, but the 980X seems to go higher in the same system.
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That's cus one is a 45nm chip and the other is a 32nm chip ;)
 
I know, but my point was if you want to reach the highest heights available at this time, you have to have the top hardware.
 
Big.Wayne said:
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You sound convinced? . . . do you actually believe that is the truth? . . . have you researched this or did somebody lead you to believe that? :D

Scarcity? . . . honest guv! :cool:
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Maybe the costs of the new hex cores are due to the billions spent in r&d?
 
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