£650 build

cawill · 6 Mar 2013 at 21:19

A friend of mine has asked me to recommend a spec to him and as people on this forum have been so helpful in the past I thought I'd ask again.

They are looking to spend £650 on the tower only (have OS, Monitor etc), and are looking to build a PC for general use and gaming purposes (Crysis etc).

They are looking at smaller midi tower cases and liked the look of the Silverstone TemJin.

YOUR BASKET
1 x Silverstone TemJin TJ08B-E Midi Tower Case - Black (SST-TJ08B-E USB 3.0) £83.99
Total : £95.09 (includes shipping : £9.25).

Could anyone please help get the best value for money spec?

snips86x · 6 Mar 2013 at 21:28

Something like this:

YOUR BASKET
1 x HIS HD 7850 IceQ X 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card (H785QN2G2M) with Tomb Raider & Bioshock PC Games £161.99
1 x Intel Core i3-3220 3.30GHz (Ivybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor (77W) - Retail £92.99
1 x Gigabyte Z77M-D3H Intel Z77 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Micro ATX Motherboard £86.99
1 x Silverstone TemJin TJ08B-E Midi Tower Case - Black (SST-TJ08B-E USB 3.0) £83.99
1 x Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache WD10EZEX - OEM ** Single Platter ** HDD £71.99
1 x XFX Pro 550W Core Edition '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply £54.98
1 x Corsair Vengeance Low Profile 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (CML8GX3M2A1600C9) £41.99
1 x Cooler Master Hyper 612S CPU Cooler (Socket 775 / 1155 / 1156 / 1366 / 2011 / AM2 / AM2+ / AM3 / FM1 / FM2) £32.99
1 x OcUK 24x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £16.99
Total : £644.89 (includes shipping : FREE).

Get another 11 posts and you can qualify for free shipping.

Doomedspeed · 6 Mar 2013 at 22:01

Another TJ08-E lover. YAY! I have the case myself and it's lovely, everyone should have one..

Anyway, a few important lessons. A modular PSU is a must.

Limit the number of HDD's, as this allows you to remove the HDD rack in the case improving airflow. I used one of these to store my SSD and HDD in the spare 5.25 bay: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-262-SV (i got the black version)

My suggestion:

YOUR BASKET
1 x Intel Core i5-3570K 3.40GHz (Ivybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor (77W) - OEM £187.99
1 x **B Grade** Gigabyte ATI Radeon HD 7850 OC Windforce 2X 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card w/ Nexuiz, Sleeping Dogs & Dirt Showd (GX-100-GI) £129.95
1 x Asus P8Z77-M Intel Z77 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard £89.99
1 x Silverstone TemJin TJ08B-E Midi Tower Case - Black (SST-TJ08B-E USB 3.0) £83.99
1 x Toshiba (7K1000.D) 1TB SATA 6GB/s 32MB Cache - OEM (DT01ACA100) HDD £59.99
1 x Corsair Builder Series CX 500w Modular '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply (CP-9020059-UK) £54.98
1 x Corsair Vengeance Low Profile 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (CML8GX3M2A1600C9) £41.99
1 x Alpenföhn Matterhorn Pure Edition CPU Cooler (Socket 775 / 1155 / 1156 / 1366 / AM2 / AM2+ / AM3 / FM1 / FM2) £29.99
1 x OcUK 24x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £16.99
Total : £695.86 (includes shipping : FREE).

Would normally pick a gigabyte motherboard but the one above and afew others seem to be voltage locked, which is rubbish for overclocking. This asus isn't.

Modular PSU, as above.

Cheaper 7850, Bargain price and a great cooler on it too..

3570k, for great overclocking.

A bit over budget but worth it.

stulid · 6 Mar 2013 at 22:08

Doomedspeed said:
Would normally pick a gigabyte motherboard but the one above and afew others seem to be voltage locked, which is rubbish for overclocking. This asus isn't.
.

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-394-GI&groupid=701&catid=5&subcat=2261

Thats the only one under £100 that I know isnt,

cawill · 6 Mar 2013 at 22:12

snips86x said:
Get another 11 posts and you can qualify for free shipping.

I thought it was 100 for free shipping? I think he'll order it himself so will pay for shipping.

Doomedspeed said:
Would normally pick a gigabyte motherboard but the one above and afew others seem to be voltage locked, which is rubbish for overclocking. This asus isn't.

Oh thanks I didn't realise that, can you tell this from the product spec?

Doomedspeed · 6 Mar 2013 at 22:42

stulid said:
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-394-GI&groupid=701&catid=5&subcat=2261

Thats the only one under £100 that I know isnt,

Cheers mate, that is another option for an extra £10. I would do it, though I do realise my spec is already over budget..

cawill said:
I thought it was 100 for free shipping? I think he'll order it himself so will pay for shipping.

Oh thanks I didn't realise that, can you tell this from the product spec?

it is, snips just can't count..

Not really, have to do a bit more digging. Or just know it. Hehe.
That's why you come here right?

cawill · 7 Mar 2013 at 08:01

Doomedspeed said:
Cheers mate, that is another option for an extra £10. I would do it, though I do realise my spec is already over budget..

Not really, have to do a bit more digging. Or just know it. Hehe.
That's why you come here right?

Yes it is

. Could you estimate a reasonable overclock that the spec above could achieve? How does this compare to voltage locked overclocks on the 3750k (I hope that made sense)?

Doomedspeed · 7 Mar 2013 at 08:34

cawill said:
Yes it is . Could you estimate a reasonable overclock that the spec above could achieve? How does this compare to voltage locked overclocks on the 3750k (I hope that made sense)?

You should get to 4.4 maybe 4.5.. With a bigger cooler (further out of budget) such as a d14 you can go a fair bit higher.

I have a d14 in my Tj08-e and I got to 4.7 with temps at 65.. So very happy.

on stock voltage the max overcoock is about 4.2 which isn't bad but for an extra £10 you get a bit of longevity.

If you know have your eyes on a bigger cooler let me warn you. The k2,TC14PE Dark rock (pro)(the dual tower obe

) and silver arrow won't fit. Though the d14 does, a H80 will too..

I did the research so you don't have too..

cawill · 7 Mar 2013 at 10:06

Doomedspeed said:
I did the research so you don't have too..

Thanks for letting me know. I may let my friend get this system first before deciding whether I might purchase it.

cawill · 7 Mar 2013 at 10:08

Doomedspeed said:
I used one of these to store my SSD and HDD in the spare 5.25 bay: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-262-SV (i got the black version)

Does this show at the front of the case or hide behind the 5.25 bay cover? You mentioned storing an SSD and a HDD in it, are they both 2.5 inch drives?

Doomedspeed · 7 Mar 2013 at 11:25

cawill said:
Does this show at the front of the case or hide behind the 5.25 bay cover? You mentioned storing an SSD and a HDD in it, are they both 2.5 inch drives?

it has attachment holes so you can set it back from the front of case. I did this and then put the cases standard 5.25 cover back over it... You'll never know its there.

I have a 3.5 inch HDD and a 2.5 inch SSD. It can safely hold another SSD too.. Awesome bit of kit.

The way the case is designed its invisible when looking in from the side so colour is not really a important...

honosuseri · 7 Mar 2013 at 14:32

Just to be different I've used an alternate case......

YOUR BASKET
1 x Intel Core i5-3570K 3.40GHz (Ivybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor (77W) - Retail £199.99
1 x **B Grade** Gigabyte ATI Radeon HD 7850 OC Windforce 2X 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card w/ Nexuiz, Sleeping Dogs & Dirt Showd (GX-100-GI) £129.95
1 x Gigabyte Z77N-WIFI Intel Z77 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Mini ITX Motherboard £98.99
1 x BitFenix Prodigy 'Yin' Mini-ITX Cube Case - White/Black £62.99
1 x Corsair Builder Series CX 500W V2 '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply (CP-9020047-UK) £49.99
1 x Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM 1TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST1000DM003) HDD £49.99
1 x Corsair Vengeance Low Profile 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (CML8GX3M2A1600C9) £41.99
1 x OcUK 24x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £16.99
Total : £650.88 (includes shipping : FREE).

Mobo is voltage locked but does include wifi

Doomedspeed · 7 Mar 2013 at 17:08

honosuseri said:
Just to be different I've used an alternate case......

YOUR BASKET
1 x Intel Core i5-3570K 3.40GHz (Ivybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor (77W) - Retail £199.99
1 x **B Grade** Gigabyte ATI Radeon HD 7850 OC Windforce 2X 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card w/ Nexuiz, Sleeping Dogs & Dirt Showd (GX-100-GI) £129.95
1 x Gigabyte Z77N-WIFI Intel Z77 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Mini ITX Motherboard £98.99
1 x BitFenix Prodigy 'Yin' Mini-ITX Cube Case - White/Black £62.99
1 x Corsair Builder Series CX 500W V2 '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply (CP-9020047-UK) £49.99
1 x Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM 1TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST1000DM003) HDD £49.99
1 x Corsair Vengeance Low Profile 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (CML8GX3M2A1600C9) £41.99
1 x OcUK 24x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £16.99
Total : £650.88 (includes shipping : FREE).

Mobo is voltage locked but does include wifi

Na, not as good as the TJ08-E..

cawill · 7 Mar 2013 at 17:54

honosuseri said:
Just to be different I've used an alternate case......
Mobo is voltage locked but does include wifi

I had been considering this case as well, but am still saving up for my build. I might consider the TJ08-E instead once I see it physically.

Doomedspeed said:
Na, not as good as the TJ08-E..

They seem to have their different advantages. Prodigy looks like it has a better setup for keeping the graphics card cool.