£650 PC for an interior designer!

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Hello!

Have gotten a job from a friend to build a budget PC that can handle the demands of an interior designer who will be using various bits of software, most notifiable being Vectorworks and Photoshop. Now I have read a little about the program and apparently it does like multi-threading, so cores are good. Graphics wise, I would like to stick something dedicated inside it as the user will be using these programs over 2 1080p screens.

Now before you all say "£650 for a work station?! Can't be done!", the designer won't be CADing up bridges and rendering skyscrapers. I've ran similar programs on my PC and they work alright with an old i5 and a 6870 inside them, however something more modern would be nicer for this build!

For the form factor I would like to look at MATX and Mini-ITX boards, since the end user won't be needing 10 hard drive bays and room for 3 Titans like a full size tower would bring and allot of the slots on a full size board wouldn't ever be used. For that reason, I am looking at the cases from BitFenix and their Prodigy range (damn fine looking cases!). Ideally, I would like Mini-ITX, as BitFenix have more colors in that size.

Finally, storage wise... (a loooong shot!) but I would love to have a small SSD to stick the programs and windows onto it and another larger HDD to store files on it.

The TL;DR varient:

  • £650 budget
  • Needs to be able to run Vectorworks well
  • Needs dedicated graphics for 2 x 1080p screens
  • Ideally, Mini-ITX or if not MATX
  • Would like the case to be a BitFenix Prodigy one
  • Finally, would love a small SSD and a HDD
  • Doesn't need to include windows

I will throw up my suggestion in a little! And here it is!

MB: Asus M5A78L-M/USB3 AMD 760G MicroATX £53
Has some spare slots for more RAM if needed.
CPU: FX-8 8320 Black Edition £114
FAN: Arctiv Cooling Alpine 64 GT £11
Will give the CPU a small overclock to get more juice out of it. 8 cores should help with rendering nicely.
PSU: Akasa Venom 55w Modular £56
Need me that modular goodness.
RAM: TeamGroup Xtreem LV "Frost Edition" 8GB £60
GPU: HIS R9 270X 2048MB £156
Will use the free game as my "payment" :D.
Optical: OcUK 24x
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120 GB SSD £80 and Seagate 2TB £62

Total Price: £672.85, slightly over budget and didn't get the Mini-ITX but got everything else.

Thanks allot,

Grady
 
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Hello!

Have gotten a job from a friend to build a budget PC that can handle the demands of an interior designer who will be using various bits of software, most notifiable being Vectorworks and Photoshop. Now I have read a little about the program and apparently it does like multi-threading, so cores are good. Graphics wise, I would like to stick something dedicated inside it as the user will be using these programs over 2 1080p screens.

Now before you all say "£650 for a work station?! Can't be done!", the designer won't be CADing up bridges and rendering skyscrapers. I've ran similar programs on my PC and they work alright with an old i5 and a 6870 inside them, however something more modern would be nicer for this build!

For the form factor I would like to look at MATX and Mini-ITX boards, since the end user won't be needing 10 hard drive bays and room for 3 Titans like a full size tower would bring and allot of the slots on a full size board wouldn't ever be used. For that reason, I am looking at the cases from BitFenix and their Prodigy range (damn fine looking cases!). Ideally, I would like Mini-ITX, as BitFenix have more colors in that size.

Finally, storage wise... (a loooong shot!) but I would love to have a small SSD to stick the programs and windows onto it and another larger HDD to store files on it.

The TL;DR varient:

  • £650 budget
  • Needs to be able to run Vectorworks well
  • Needs dedicated graphics for 2 x 1080p screens
  • Ideally, Mini-ITX or if not MATX
  • Would like the case to be a BitFenix Prodigy one
  • Finally, would love a small SSD and a HDD
  • Doesn't need to include windows

I will throw up my suggestion in a little! And here it is!

MB: Asus M5A78L-M/USB3 AMD 760G MicroATX £53
Has some spare slots for more RAM if needed.
CPU: FX-8 8320 Black Edition £114
FAN: Arctiv Cooling Alpine 64 GT £11
Will give the CPU a small overclock to get more juice out of it. 8 cores should help with rendering nicely.
PSU: Akasa Venom 55w Modular £56
Need me that modular goodness.
RAM: TeamGroup Xtreem LV "Frost Edition" 8GB £60
GPU: HIS R9 270X 2048MB £156
Will use the free game as my "payment" :D.
Optical: OcUK 24x
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120 GB SSD £80 and Seagate 2TB £62

Total Price: £672.85, slightly over budget and didn't get the Mini-ITX but got everything else.

Thanks allot,

Grady
if you want a matx/itx build then you will have to get and intel cpu. the am3+ matx/itx boards are poor and the cpu's kick out a lot of heat which would fill up a very small case quickly unless it has very good airflow.
 
you don't need dedicated GPU to run 2 1080p monitors (assuming you'll go Haswell)

also don't bother with Alpine 64, not much better than Intel stock.
 
you don't need dedicated GPU to run 2 1080p monitors (assuming you'll go Haswell)

also don't bother with Alpine 64, not much better than Intel stock.

Do need dedicated graphics for the other programs and Vectorworks however. Possibly won't see much improvement from a 7790 to a 270X however, so will downgrade there if I am now going intel.

The Alphine 64 was to replace the stock AMD cooler, as I have heard they are noisy and crap.

@ Sparx, thanks for the suggestion. Even if I downgrade the 270X to a 7790, it is still £80 over budget. If I go for an i5, I can't see me overclocking it so don't think I will need the K. What kind of performance does the 4670K give over say a 4430 if I don't plan to overclock? Since its a £45 difference (£95 if I downgrade the card as well).

Thanks for the replys chaps!
 
Do need dedicated graphics for the other programs and Vectorworks however. Possibly won't see much improvement from a 7790 to a 270X however, so will downgrade there if I am now going intel.

The Alphine 64 was to replace the stock AMD cooler, as I have heard they are noisy and crap.

@ Sparx, thanks for the suggestion. Even if I downgrade the 270X to a 7790, it is still £80 over budget. If I go for an i5, I can't see me overclocking it so don't think I will need the K. What kind of performance does the 4670K give over say a 4430 if I don't plan to overclock? Since its a £45 difference (£95 if I downgrade the card as well).

Thanks for the replys chaps!
if you not going to overclock at all go with a none k i5 and a h87 chipset motherboard. there is quite a big difference between the 270x and the 7790, but i would get the normal 270 not the x as the x is just overclocked a bit out the box. i've also sqeezed in a 250gb ssd
YOUR BASKET
1 x Sapphire Radeon R9 270 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £139.99
1 x Intel Core i5-4430 3.00GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail £139.99
1 x Samsung 250GB SSD 840 EVO SATA 6Gb/s Basic - (MZ-7TE250BW) £137.99
1 x Gigabyte H87M-HD3 Intel H87 (Socket 1150) DDR3 Micro ATX Motherboard £73.99
1 x BitFenix Prodigy M MATX Cube Case - Midnight Black £64.99
1 x SuperFlower Golden Green HX 450W "80 Plus Gold" Power Supply - Black £53.99
1 x Avexir MPower Yellow Series 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Memory Kit (AVD3U16000904G-2CM) £49.99
1 x Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM 1TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST1000DM003) HDD £43.99
Total : £719.03 (includes shipping : £11.75).

 
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i think rjning an AMD system is good enough the3 iGPU (integrated grfx) are p0retty poerwful and coul savyou a lot odf money over intel also the chips/MB's have a long life whereas intels chips/MB's need a new one ever genertion
 
i think rjning an AMD system is good enough the3 iGPU (integrated grfx) are p0retty poerwful and coul savyou a lot odf money over intel also the chips/MB's have a long life whereas intels chips/MB's need a new one ever genertion

wat?

build above is decent. I would just get 4440 and HIS 270X.

it'll be £20 extra for those 2, but as it comes with BF4, you can easily shift that for £20, so in the end, free upgrade.

also £6 extra buys you 650W version, should you want to do something crazy later on.

if you settle for 120GB SSD, you'll fit into budget nicely.
 
Depending if they will be using Vectorworks to it's pottentional then RAM and Video are going to be key factors here (currently setup a workstastion for one of our client's who is using Vectorworks and Artlantis).
Workstation currently spec'd with 16GB and Quadro2000 2GB, along with a Xeon.
 
Thanks for the list there Jumper118, over budget but can drop the SSD down to a 120 Gb (only need it for windows and a couple of programs).

@ MrStabby, I emailed someone from tech support at Vectorworks and was told that a 1gb Graphics card would do along side a CPU with plenty of cores as Vectorworks likes multi-threading ... BUT ... he was just reading off the recommended requirements list and my experience in gaming has me led to believe that sitting on the "recommended requirements" will leave you a day late and a dollar short. Like I said in the OP, the client here won't be needing to render entire buildings, just rooms and the like.

With that in mind, maybe I can skimp on the case and SSD and try to get an i5 along side the 270X then.
 
If you decide to do mini itx this would be my suggestion. The i5 should give plent of grunt for multi threaded apps and I would be surprised if you actually see the difference between a non X 270 and the X version for non gaming related things.

YOUR BASKET
1 x Intel Core i5-4440 3.10GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail £143.99
1 x Sapphire Radeon R9 270 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £139.99
1 x Silverstone Sugo SG05 HTPC Case with 450W Power Supply - All Black ( SST-SG05BB-450 USB 3.0) £114.95
1 x Gigabyte H87N-WIFI Intel H87 (Socket 1150) DDR3 Mini ITX Motherboard £101.99
1 x Samsung 120GB SSD 840 EVO SATA 6Gb/s Basic - (MZ-7TE120BW) £79.99
1 x Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200RPM SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST2000DM001) HDD £61.99
1 x Avexir MPower Yellow Series 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Memory Kit (AVD3U16000904G-2CM) £49.99
Total : £712.81 (includes shipping : £16.60).

 
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