720p or 1080i?

MeEsH BaKkA · 30 Oct 2006 at 21:20

In the screen settings on my xbox 360 you hvae the choice of 720p or 1080i, which is better to use. I have heard a lot of people talking about 720p, is this a case of the bigger the number = not always better? or do these settings make no diffrence?

Thanx

Droolinggimp · 30 Oct 2006 at 21:23

TBH I can never tell the difference.. Mind you its probably because im playing on my 360 on my 92" screen

DaveyD · 30 Oct 2006 at 21:26

720p should be better in theory for fast moving images and games, 1080i overall should be better for still images and stuff like that, but it's not quite as simple as that. The 360 is 720p native, so most games should look better on this.

It'll depend on your TV supporting it as well, but if your TV is native 720p, then I'd go for that. I've read a lot of people saying they prefer 1080i, but I prefer 720p myself. 720p is 1280x720, so uses all 720 lines of pixels due to it being progressive. 1080i is interlaced 1920x1080, meaning it's switching its rendering of lines between odd and even, so 1, 3, 5, 7, then to 2, 4, 6, 8. That's how I see it anyway, there's plenty of other threads that go into it though.

If it was 1080p on the other hand, I'd rather everything ran at that 60fps, but nobody has sets that can do 1080p at the moment, (well, very very very few people), and no 360 games support it, though that'll change when the fall update comes out.

This thread probably has most the answers after a search

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=17633296

Metalface Mark · 30 Oct 2006 at 23:44

DaveyD said:
720p should be better in theory for fast moving images and games, 1080i overall should be better for still images and stuff like that, but it's not quite as simple as that. The 360 is 720p native, so most games should look better on this.

It'll depend on your TV supporting it as well, but if your TV is native 720p, then I'd go for that. I've read a lot of people saying they prefer 1080i, but I prefer 720p myself. 720p is 1280x720, so uses all 720 lines of pixels due to it being progressive. 1080i is interlaced 1920x1080, meaning it's switching its rendering of lines between odd and even, so 1, 3, 5, 7, then to 2, 4, 6, 8. That's how I see it anyway, there's plenty of other threads that go into it though.

If it was 1080p on the other hand, I'd rather everything ran at that 60fps, but nobody has sets that can do 1080p at the moment, (well, very very very few people), and no 360 games support it, though that'll change when the fall update comes out.

This thread probably has most the answers after a search
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=17633296

My set can do 1080 P

For the record i cant see any difference on my bravia between 720p and 1080i.

Metalface Mark · 1 Nov 2006 at 16:01

InwardSinging said:
My set can do 1080 P

For the record i cant see any difference on my bravia between 720p and 1080i.

Actually i was talking rubbish, i spent a bit of time last night comparing the two, and 1080i looks much better on my tv.

Caustic · 1 Nov 2006 at 17:40

It is important to compare how a game looks in the two res whilst playing, rather than static pics, as that is where 1080i fails.

Also important to note is that many TV's support 1080i/p but very few have that as their native res. Some can upscale better than others etc.

Barry Smalley · 1 Nov 2006 at 17:43

I prefer 1080i over 720p and I have tried both for several hours at a time.

Energize · 1 Nov 2006 at 18:30

720P is much smoother, going from 720p back to 1080i looks like a slideshow to me and 1080i has a lower verticle resolution anyway.

Abooie · 1 Nov 2006 at 19:03

Barry Smalley said:
I prefer 1080i over 720p and I have tried both for several hours at a time.

Same here. TV: Toshiba 32WLT66

GTCole · 1 Nov 2006 at 19:17

smcshaw said:
Same here. TV: Toshiba 32WLT66

Me too, i have compared both and find that even in fast moving games (Burnout for example) 1080i is a lot better, i dont notice any difference in the speed and the picture quality seems far better

jamief · 2 Nov 2006 at 07:57

GTCole said:
Me too, i have compared both and find that even in fast moving games (Burnout for example) 1080i is a lot better, i dont notice any difference in the speed and the picture quality seems far better

Same here, 42WLT66.. I think because the screens native res is 1080 it looks so good

nintenjo · 2 Nov 2006 at 09:30

OK somone explaine... 720p ?? Thats an american standard no? Dont we have 756p on PAL uk LCD tv's ?? which means the 360 dosnt run in a native resolution? As most LCD's have a native resolution of 1366x768 in the UK, but the 360 dosnt support that?

I dont quite understand all the setting etc? Like UK DVD's are 720x576 ... but all consoles output 640x480 in the UK which is lower than a DVD.. but not as high as 720p?

jamief · 2 Nov 2006 at 11:14

nintenjo said:
OK somone explaine... 720p ?? Thats an american standard no? Dont we have 756p on PAL uk LCD tv's ?? which means the 360 dosnt run in a native resolution? As most LCD's have a native resolution of 1366x768 in the UK, but the 360 dosnt support that?

I dont quite understand all the setting etc? Like UK DVD's are 720x576 ... but all consoles output 640x480 in the UK which is lower than a DVD.. but not as high as 720p?

HDTV Standards

720p
1080i
1080p

These are international standards (afaik). All LCD / Plasma Tv's that I've seen are either 720 or 1080 resolution. You might be thinking of LCD Monitors, which are commonly XXXXx768 or similar.

TONY · 2 Nov 2006 at 13:07

My set runs 1080p, I have my Xbox 360 set to 1080i and the tv will convert it to 1080p before it displays it so I get the best picture possible (unless they somehow get the 360 to output 1080p over component that is).

Energize · 2 Nov 2006 at 13:45

nintenjo said:
OK somone explaine... 720p ?? Thats an american standard no? Dont we have 756p on PAL uk LCD tv's ?? which means the 360 dosnt run in a native resolution? As most LCD's have a native resolution of 1366x768 in the UK, but the 360 dosnt support that?

I dont quite understand all the setting etc? Like UK DVD's are 720x576 ... but all consoles output 640x480 in the UK which is lower than a DVD.. but not as high as 720p?

The sd PAL consoles output at 720x576 or 640x576, 720p is not an american standard it's worldwide.

oweneades · 2 Nov 2006 at 13:49

TONY said:
My set runs 1080p, I have my Xbox 360 set to 1080i and the tv will convert it to 1080p before it displays it so I get the best picture possible (unless they somehow get the 360 to output 1080p over component that is).

I have the option on component to choose 1080p however my lcd tv doesn't support it.

Does it appear on the list for you since the update?!

Kreeeee · 2 Nov 2006 at 14:31

Kreeeee · 2 Nov 2006 at 14:36

Abooie · 2 Nov 2006 at 15:04

Kreeeee said:
The majority of HDTVs are 1366*768

Which is why 1080i looks cleaner on some peoples TVs over 720p. My Tosh scales down a 1080i picture better than it up scales a 720p picture.

As I've stated before, my belief is with 1080 lines it gets to pick 768 discrete ones. At 720 lines it needs to duplicate 48 of them. Thus the 1080i appears 'cleaner'.

Energize · 2 Nov 2006 at 15:08

Kreeeee said:
You'll still get all of the disadvantages of 1080i as you can't add visual information that isn't physically there.

You don't get the half framerate disadvantage of 1080i though assuming it's bob deinterlacing or better.