7700K or 1700X ?

[Dicehunter]

Building a rig for a family member and can't decide on which CPU to go with, Now that the bios updates are coming thick and fast with high speed memory I've seen performance on a 4GHz 1700X match or exceed the 7700K at 5GHz in quite a lot of games but then there comes the question of whether some games take advantage of those extra cores and threads.

I have to build the rig within the next 2 weeks so can't wait for whatever Intel throws out next in August.

So, Pros and cons, 7700K or 1700X ?

 

[Dicehunter]

Sorry forgot to add that, Gaming and various rendering workloads.

 

[Dicehunter]

What sort of games will be played on it? I guess the rendering tasks would be better with Ryzen but if the games are mainly single threaded such as some of the simulators then they will benefit more from a faster core speed which would favour the Intel.

All games will be in 1440P, Mainly things like WoW, Gears of War, The Witcher.

If this is true then why not going for Ryzen?

Because a handful of specific games is not all games.

 

[Dicehunter]

"quite a lot of" vs "a handful of", I think you've made your mind for Ryzen already!

I pick 7700K@5GHz because I see the other way around.

/sigh

Quite a lot in the review but in retrospect to how many games there are in existence it's not a lot, Not that hard to understand.

 

[Dicehunter]

Mature, stable, end of life platform from Intel - 7700K - 4c/8t If you are building a system that never needs to be upgraded other than the GPU, and RAM, and will be in use for 4+ years, then get a 7700K, and price is not a problem.

New & slightly challenging, brand new architecture, socket with 3+ years of life left in it - Ryzen R5/7 system. If you don't mind things being not perfect right now, and incoming improvements, and I am assuming 1440P will be a GTX 1070/1080 minimum, you will lose a few FPS in some games.

I've noticed you have not mentioned a budget for the whole system? It would seem that the sensible option would be to share this info, as you could build an R5 1600 system on a B350 board, for the same cost as the Intel 7700K, and then use the extra cash to get a GPU uplift, which will improve all the games performacne no matter what the CPU. Then if 6c/12t at 3.9/4.0GHz is not enough, then at least you would be able to drop a Zen+/Zen2 chip in it some where down the line, you'll never be able to upgrade the Intel platform sadly.

The GPU going into the build is a 1080 Ti, Got pretty much everything sorted minus the board and chip, Looked at quite a few benchmarks, These are quite up to date -

Got them from this video and they seem to be in line with what I'm seeing from users on various forums and other more recent videos with newer bios' etc....

 

[Dicehunter]

ryzen is not faster in games than x99.its faster in some rendering progs and other progs.ingames across the board it isnt.even a 7700k can beat even top ryzen in 90 percent of games.as said people pick and choose games to say whatever product is faster.intel is still faster across the board on avg.

benched about 15 cpus in bf1.ryzen is slower than x99 cpus in it.

I personally can't speak for other X99 chips but the 4GHz 1800X I have played with is faster in quite a few games than my 5930K at 4.50GHz, Although I have no experience with the 7700K.

I think it comes down to many people suffering from AMDINAQFD, Commonly known as AMD Is Now Actually Quite Fast Disorder