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7800X so slow ....
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How are you placed to comment on why my choice of words to call the stock cooler decent then? Why do you assume everyone is an over clocking enthusiast who may be reading this? The number of threads with people who write "I like to leave it at stock" or "Not going to push it to hard" and then people recommend a 140mm AIO.
My principal point still stands, remove the AIO and you have £580 vs. £270 both with 'crap air coolers' so still over double the cost, except now you can't overclock the Intel system more than 200MHz. Please tell me the justification on the price difference?
We've chosen not to play with the X299 system after receiving the 7900x, and it offering such high temps Vs. the 6900k and 6950x systems we have been building, even though the price difference was good, we are now waiting for our TR CPU's, and will also have loads more PCI-E lanes which is invaluable.
You should open a thread, and do a poll on the final question, as I think it would prove interesting what percentage of people still use an included cooler, and also include the question if do so you over clock. I've done four R5's with 3.85/3.9GHz on stock 1600 coolers at about 1.25v
Hey that's great, i'm happy for you. Because you know what? we all have a choice. I dont have to justify anyones choice, neither do they, but i can see a scenario where somone encodes etc as well as playing games. the 7800x is a better cpu than the 1700 in that case. Now i'm going to take a Journey out of this thread
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It's been a long time since we could actually have a discussion involving "which cpu is best - Intel or AMD?" with no clear answer - personally I'm loving it 
Cool, you do that then. The justification of the costs was not against a purchaser, but the platform price differential being almost wholly unjustifiable if looking at the overall performance you receive vs. the expenditure. Having choice is indeed great, and brings much needed change to the CPU sector again, but it's always going to take time for the price/performance field to level out when one has been so dominant.
Shame you didn't fancy doing the poll however, since it seems like a genuine curiosity given how 'good' some of the coolers being provided are these days. Almost nice going back to the days where you could get a CPU overclocked without needing extra parts, á la Celeron 300A or some of the Pentium III's
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If Ryzen wasn't any good Intel would not have dropped the price per core relative to X99 V2 and socket 1151 V2,with X299 and socket 1151 V3.
Which is awesome for the 2% of PC gamers that do that these days, to the other 98% it makes no difference... oh sorry I should include the 3% of twitch gamers at 144Hz+, so it's the other 95% that don't need it.
We know you love uber high end hardware since that's all you bang on about, and yes it is now your job to sell it, but stop pretending it represents fair value in the current CPU market place, it doesn't.
When it was not my job I always ran 4 way and binned 20 Cards per generation ask Gibbo he would tell you.
Same with CPU I always had the flagship model which I binned.
I do some more affordable options in teh approved ranges. The Xtreme stuff and systems always must remain the best of the best at all costs.
Same with CPU I always had the flagship model which I binned.
I do some more affordable options in teh approved ranges. The Xtreme stuff and systems always must remain the best of the best at all costs.
so will coffeelake be compatible with x299?
Im running a 6 core 5930k and I feel the need to update as Ive had that cpu for a long time now, its just everyone keeps on saying the new x299 chipsets are not for gaming and only for professional use, i only game, that my sole purpose for the PC ive built.
No, coffee lake will be a new motherboard with the z370 chipset. For gaming coffee lake will be more than fine.