780G or Nforce 8200

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I'm going to be buying a Phenom 9850, and I'm a bit stuck on choice of motherboards. Must be microATX, must have integrated graphics.

Is there a huge difference in performance/overclocking/other between the AMD 780G and the Nforce 8200 (integrated GeForce 8200)? I'm finding it less than easy to track down reviews of the latter on the web.

Any thoughts/suggestions?
 
780G is the better solution.

Edit: How come and you are going for a high end Phenom? If its for HTPC then why not use a lower end Phenom? A low power 65w model was announced, although OEM only. Will you be overclocking it?
 
780G it is then. It's going to be a PC used simply to run lots of virtual machines and for a little bit of testing work - rather than an HPC.

It'll be in an SG-03, so cramped and hot. Most likely wont bother overclocking, although I would like the unlocked multiplier of the Black Edition just incase.

I hear that many of the mATX 780G boards wont support the 125w phenom's due to the PWM / Mosfets getting very very hot (~130C in some cases). Worries me a little ....
 
Yep, if going with the Phenom then at the moment the 780G boards aren't quite upto the job. The chipset is fine, it is the PWM/Mosfet that are the problem.

The manufacturers of the boards don't see them being used this way. Personally I would go with an 8200 board as they don't seem to have the same board issue with PWM/Mosfets.

The big difference between the two is the GPU performance. As this is a Virtual Machine Server then that shouldn't be an issue.
 
FirebarUK said:
780G it is then. It's going to be a PC used simply to run lots of virtual machines and for a little bit of testing work - rather than an HPC.

It'll be in an SG-03, so cramped and hot. Most likely wont bother overclocking, although I would like the unlocked multiplier of the Black Edition just incase.

I hear that many of the mATX 780G boards wont support the 125w phenom's due to the PWM / Mosfets getting very very hot (~130C in some cases). Worries me a little ....
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Gigabyte & Asrock have added them to their cpu support list according to Asrock the fault of the PWM/Mosfets getting hot is not a chipset problem, it lies with amd's hsf. The hsf air does not blow over the mosfets/pwm properly thus creating the heat, one recommendation would be either changing the hsf or putting a 60mm fan on the pwm/mosfet area.

The asrock is available from other e-tailors, review found here:

http://my.ocworkbench.com/2008/asrock/A780FullDisplayPort/g1.htm
 
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Thanks for that info. Looks like I might give the ASRock a go. Although the fact that it'll be running Linux still makes me lean to the Nforce solution. Ah well..
 
Well, just ordered a 9850 and the ASRock motherboard. Also chucked in some little heatsinks to put on the mosfets just in case ;) (paranoid)
 
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