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7850 to what? consider not OC

Banzai_Joe

Banzai_Joe

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Hi all,
so i have the opportunity to change up from the 7850. Basically i told my step-son i'd vamp his pc up form his HD4870, so if i give him my 7850, he'll be well happy.
So what shall i get to go into my rig (see sig). Bear in mind its a min-itx form so needs to run cool whether oc'd or not.

Would a MSI 7950 twinfrozr do just fine. My 7850 is MSI twinfrozr and i was thinking the shape and cooling would be similar so would be an ok swap out.
Back when i was looking for the right card for my case the 7850 twinfrozr kept being recommended due to it fan positions and low heat etc.

Moving up another notch the 7970 twinfrozr seems to be the cheapest OCUK do at £259.

Might be too expensive though.
BF4 beckons and i want FULL eye candy glory when gaming on my 47" 1080p Toshy tv.

Thanks for any advice offered.
 
Just down to preference then really. The 7970 overclocked might take you a bit close to the PSU's limit. Since you've no future option of Crossfire, I'd go with the 7970 if you're happy to spend the extra.
 
if its in a small case and heat may be a problem what about NVidia? my amd 7950 gets vert toasty, arnt NVidia cooler running cards?
 
Banzai_Joe said:
Might be too expensive though.
BF4 beckons and i want FULL eye candy glory when gaming on my 47" 1080p Toshy tv.
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IMO you would need at least GTX780 level card (including AMD's equivalent next gen) for that. But the 450W PSU would become a limitation as the power consumption would be cutting too close to the max output.
 
I wouldn't like to run a 7970 on a 450w psu,esp one that come with the case

id look at a good quality 600-750w
 
wazza300 said:
I wouldn't like to run a 7970 on a 450w psu,esp one that come with the case
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Actually those are Silverstone certified 80 PLUS 450W with the SG05, so it's not the same with the generic PSU you are thinking of. However even if it was a good quality 450W unit, one shouldn't really use a graphic card that require more than two PCI-E 6pin.
 
you might get away with it,but a larger wattage wouldn't have to work as hard and would make less fan noise

I was thinking it was a cheap generic psu
 
I don't think the 7970 TF3 is worth an extra £70 over the 7950 Tf3 in all honesty.
Sure, the '70 may clock a little higher and there's an extra dash of epeen, but generally you'd be hard pressed to tell the difference between them outside of benchmarks or without an fps counter.

If I'm reading the title correctly, you're not wanting to OC...
This is where 79xx cards shine and you'll need to if you want to squeeze the most out of BF4 and other demanding titles.
Saying that, perhaps you could do with the slight extra grunt of a 7970...

From a brief look at your case, it doesn't too bad for ventilation. As said, these can get a little toasty in confined spaces and you more than likely won't be running BF4/future titles at max candy levels, but hopefully not far off.

With OC'd CPU/GPU, I've recorded up to 380w or so draw from my rig, so maybe you'll be ok with your psu, though don't quote me on that for the love of baby jesus!
I'd like to think it's ok being a Silverstone model, but you never know and it is cutting it fine whichever way you look at it.
 
Uncle Petey said:
With OC'd CPU/GPU, I've recorded up to 380w or so draw from my rig, so maybe you'll be ok with your psu, though don't quote me on that for the love of baby jesus!
I'd like to think it's ok being a Silverstone model, but you never know and it is cutting it fine whichever way you look at it.
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Yea but OP got a i7 not i5, so power consumption would be higher as well...
 
TBH an OC 7850 could cope with BF 4 pretty well since it can run BF 3 on pretty much max (except a few settings here and there i.e. AA, imo there isn't a HUGE difference between ultra and high) Supposedly BF 4 will be optimised better for AMD GPUs and also supposedly the new frost bite engine will be better optimised in general.

I would just wait and see what the beta runs like first (should be out next month), although performance could improve or decrease with the final game.

If the 7850 runs bf 4 well on mostly max settings then you can buy your step son a cheap 7850.

@wazza300

When/if you have time, could you check out my thread here and check to make sure I am doing overclocking correctly :p :o
 
According to some around here, we'll be needing xfired 7970's to max bf4 @60fps.
I wouldn't go that far, but I reckon it'll be hungrier than BF3.

Still, you're right in that there isn't much difference between high and ultra and it'll still look great with a few things turned down.

Here's to hoping they optimize the crap out of it :D
 
its just bf3 performance wise

so if you want to run at your current bf3 settings and you happy with your fps then youll be fine.

beta is in few weeks anyway wait till then and try out.

then buy new card. youll need a new psu if you want to be safe.
 
I will be very surprised if we need a beast of a setup like that to run it smoothly on max settings (when I say max, I mean taking away the insane amount of AA applied and @1080p :p) It goes without saying that it will require a bit more power due to the amount of extra stuff going on, improved physics etc. but if what DICE are saying is true then we could be ok (hopefully :p)

Either way, I am sure that it will look superb even on medium settings and probably even on low! I play bf 3 with mostly low settings due to wanting no slow downs at all in MP and with a sweetfx config it still looks really good. Main thing that makes BF 3 look bad is DICE's crap artistic blue filter :o
 
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