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7970 After one day

f00f1ght0r said:
You are kidding right? Brain Overload? You do realise that we have eyes that see images far more vivid, bright and higher 'dpi' than monitors in our every day lives. By your logic our brains are overloaded ever waking moment of our lives... :rolleyes:
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I would call you a fool, but I don't want to insult any other fools out there. As for higher dpi, if you can simultaneously distinguish every single pixel on a 5760x1080 display, you should be put in a glass jar and examined for the good of medical science. That is impossible due to field of vision and your brains ability to process information.

If you can open 3 webpages, full-screen them accross 3 monitors, and read every single word of text without moving your eyes, then I will take the above statement back.
 
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Crezzlin said:
Just gone from 6990/6970 to 7979/7970 xfx black edition cards.. Blown away super smooth all max apart from AA on Bf3 at 5760x1200. I was getting good fps on the 6000 cards but mouse to screen lag time to time and fps drops.. Runs like a dream on the 7000 cards didn't think it would but it does :) overclocked them to thev CCC max without any probs..
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Have you had a chance to overclock them yet?
 
Freddie1980 said:
Have you had a chance to overclock them yet?
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Yeah like I said just to the ccc max overclock, will have a play tomo.. At the stock speeds I was getting p15365 and with the overclock p16496 about 1k more than my prev trifire setup.. Main thing is very smooth game play with Eyefinity. :) temps are between 55-65c with the overclock at 60% fan with little fan noise.
 
oweneades said:
Portrait or Landscape? I get the same feeling with the screen in Landscape but in Portrait the feeling goes away.
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I’ve never seen a statement about people having motion sickness from eyefinity.. UNLESS You have a small amount of mouse to screen lag, I had this problem in the past with the stupid NF200 Chip and trifire giving me such lag, this would give me head spin big time as my hand was out of sink to the screen movement, Its true it will give this effect big time, but soon as I used portrait mode it would go because the GPU’S could handle this better and not lag.. I have the problem fixed I can play eyefinity and shoot people before they see me :) for 5hrs straight and still **** in a straight line. :-0
 
Got my 7970 yesterday. Just in time too. I was still using the 6970 for desktop use and it worked fine. Sadly I decided to try a different driver and as soon as I did so the card did this.

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And that was it. No matter what I tried I could not load a driver without it doing that :(

So all morning I had to sit in safe mode with networking..

Card came, fitted it, straight to 1000mhz.

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Not bad for a stock 950 :)
 
I don't know if anyone asked this yet. Thread is so derailed from original purpose :D stopped reading around some huge fight about kittens... or gfx card manufacturing or something :p

Is the single 7970 a lot lower in noise and heat than the dual 570's in your non-watercooled setup?
 
insejn said:
I don't know if anyone asked this yet. Thread is so derailed from original purpose :D stopped reading around some huge fight about kittens... or gfx card manufacturing or something :p

Is the single 7970 a lot lower in noise and heat than the dual 570's in your non-watercooled setup?
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All I can say is the black edition is silent on desktop use and 50% less sound from the fan over a 6970.. Worth the extra if your not going to water cool.. :)
 
555BUK said:
I would call you a fool, but I don't want to insult any other fools out there. As for higher dpi, if you can simultaneously distinguish every single pixel on a 5760x1080 display, you should be put in a glass jar and examined for the good of medical science. That is impossible due to field of vision and your brains ability to process information.

If you can open 3 webpages, full-screen them accross 3 monitors, and read every single word of text without moving your eyes, then I will take the above statement back.
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2 points here...

1. Peripheral Vision is always used, regardless of being sat infront of multi monitors or walking around outside. So motion sickness due to peripheral vision 'suddenly being used' is incorrect, as it is always used, unless you have circulation problems, diabetes or any number of other optical impairments.

2. Optics is still leagues ahead of digital. Being stuck to a resolution is limiting potential information. Eyes, like optical lenses provide a horrendously large amount of visual data which cannot be represented on digital devices which are limited to how many CCD sensors it has. This is quintessentially why analogue optical cameras on film still provide the very best photographs even alongside digital cameras.

This will always be the case until you can have CCDs smaller than the photographic film molecule. Our eyes vary massively depending on the volume, positioning and health of the rod and cone receptors in our eyes.

TLDR?

1. We always see things around us without focusing on it. So sitting infront of a multi-monitor setup is not opening up a new evolution change in our eyes.

2. Nature > Technology when it comes to optics.
 
insejn said:
I don't know if anyone asked this yet. Thread is so derailed from original purpose :D stopped reading around some huge fight about kittens... or gfx card manufacturing or something :p

Is the single 7970 a lot lower in noise and heat than the dual 570's in your non-watercooled setup?
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I have to admit that the 7970 can be a loud card if it gets hot.

The fan, I assume, is a Delta blower. Same as all their other cards.

Thankfully though it doesn't get that hot and I have only heard it make that racket when testing it myself manually.

I would assume it's the very same fan used by Nvidia in their blower coolers.

Personally I don't think the XFX Black card is worth the money. All it is is a stock card with half of the cooler popped off and a dual fan assembly jury rigged over the bottom half of the stock cooler. It even has a wire going across the bottom.

And at that price? madness. The stock cooler is more than good enough tbh. I have my card at 1ghz (not pushed it on yet) and it hardly makes a sound. It was £439.
 
ALXAndy said:
I have to admit that the 7970 can be a loud card if it gets hot.

The fan, I assume, is a Delta blower. Same as all their other cards.

Thankfully though it doesn't get that hot and I have only heard it make that racket when testing it myself manually.

I would assume it's the very same fan used by Nvidia in their blower coolers.

Personally I don't think the XFX Black card is worth the money. All it is is a stock card with half of the cooler popped off and a dual fan assembly jury rigged over the bottom half of the stock cooler. It even has a wire going across the bottom.

And at that price? madness. The stock cooler is more than good enough tbh. I have my card at 1ghz (not pushed it on yet) and it hardly makes a sound. It was £439.
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Start pushing it (+ volt increase) and it will start to become intrusive.

My card seems to have a quirk in that once it breaches 75 degrees it starts artifacting at clocks above 1075 on the core. Keep it below 75 degrees and it is perfectly stable with no artifacting at all (tested up to 1125 with "stock" volts).

I need to do more testing but in order to keep the card below this temperature it must have the fan running over 45% which is getting to the point of what I would call intrusive.

I have my eye on the Accelero Extreme HD7970 which should come in around the £60 mark. Short of water cooling this should give the best chance of pushing the clocks and keeping the noise level in check.
 
The_Baron said:
Is something like the Accelero Extreme easy to fit without damaging the card?
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In theory yes as long as you take your time. In practice it depends on how many fiddly bits it comes with.

As a quick update I have "Ghetto modded" my cooling setup with a 80mm silent fan blowing cool air onto the back of the cards VRM area - and by association the back of the core as well.

Using my auto fan profile;~ 40% at 70 degrees, the card plateaued at 74 degrees in Crysis 2 whereas it would often breach through 77 degrees at the same fan profile - thus in my case causing artifacting.

I now see no artifacting at 1075 core and don't need to run the fan any faster than 45% to keep temps in check.

1100 and 1125 testing will have to be tomorrow now but I am hoping to be able to reduce the cards fan speed and thus noise level whilst keeping temps below 75 degrees.
 
wodgah said:
So i did take the plunge and change my SLI 570 setup for a single 7970 i know some people will think im crazy but wanted to say a couple of things that may or may not help anyone else in a similar situation.

GTX 570 SLI score 2031

7970 Single card score 1925

As you can see the difference is low at just over 100 points which is about a 5% difference.

So something else that a lot of people will think I am nuts about , but my 2 570's didnt match one was a PALIT and other a MSI. The PALIT is about 20mm longer in length and the cards look very different. This bothered me as i really like making my system look nice and this took away from it.

Toms videos showed the 7970s to have different coloured PCB , I myself went with ASUS because theirs was black as well as their cards being very reliable for me in the past and all round liking them.

Ok so heres the part that will either have people agreeing or calling me nuts, i never intended to get 2 x 570s but a second one came my way at a price I couldn't say no to. The fact they don't match bugged me and when you add on to that, that I am planning on putting my system underwater in the next month or 2 and wanted to make it a project with pictures and video the fact they were very different and also the fact it would mean another 70 pounds for another block plus needed more radiator real estate it made my mind up.
The other factor was I was able to effectivly just swap my cards for the single gpu solution.

Anyways enough about my madness or strangeness.

The things I wanted to put in here which may help other people.

1. The ASUS 7970 has a BLACK PCB.

2. On the same system and settings the ASUS 7970 Overclocked to max settings in CCC benches nearly the same as 570s Overclocked in SLI.

3. The price for buying either of these is pretty much the same.

Thats pretty much it , I should state I am a fanboy of neither and really dont have a preference either way. I did go from a 5850 which was fine for a long time but driver issues were annoying at times, the 570s I didnt have any issues with.

I will also say i play both Battlefield 3 and Star Wars The Old Republic, and I cannot notice a difference in quality when playing with everything maxed on both games.

I will also point out I play on a single 23 inch IPS dell ultrasharp and this isnt saying whats best just merely my observations.
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Dude, are you me ?

I went from a 5850, to a GTX570, to GTX570 SLI because I got a good deal on the 570, didn't like the excessive heat/power draw, and the fact that the two cards didn't match (in looks or in length), and wanted a faster single-GPU solution, so I just got a 7970 like two days ago!

Crazy!
 
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